A couple random thoughts about the win and more...
The Pack's jury-rigged offensive line did not allow a sack on QB Aaron Rodgers. This, despite the fact that the ViQueens were supposed to have the best defensive line in the league. You know, with the half-ton of Williams' in the middle and the $75-million-man, Jared Allen, on the end. Guess what? Allen never got close to putting his helmet in Rodgers' spine, as Allen said he was looking forward to; Chad Clifton -- despite a couple of false starts -- took care of Allen this year as he did last year when Allen was with KC. Cliffy made Allen a non-factor. The Williams' also weren't much of a problem. In fact, not only did the Packers' O-line not allow a sack on Rodgers, they also were able to generate a 5.4 yards-per-carry average. Granted, a good chunk of that came on the late 57-yard run by Ryan Grant. But still...a very good first effort. Get ready of the penalties...and get Scott Wells back at center (as he is expected to be this week) and this is as solid a line as the Packers' could hope for. A key element of this line has been the ability to rotate players. But special kudos need to go to Jason Spitz, who filled in capably at center for Wells. In this regard, he's picking up right where he left off last year when he started games at all three of the interior line positions. You can read a good article on Spitz here.
Ryan Grant is still bothered by a sore hamstring. Yes, he rushed for 92 yards despite not seeing any action in the preseason. But he was reportedly sore at halftime and was being told by coaches and trainers on the sidelines not to go full speed. No doubt he'll be rehabbing and nursing this for a while. If Brandon Jackson can break off a few runs and ease the load on Grant that would be a help until Grant is fully recovered.
For any fans interested, there are apparently still about 4,000 tickets available for Sunday's game between the Lions and Packers in Detroit. If not sold out by tomorrow afternoon, the game could be blacked out in the Detroit TV market. Apparently, losing to the Atlanta Falcons on the road doesn't give long-suffering Detroit fans much incentive to see them also lose to the Packers in their home opener. In fact, they already seem to be in a win-or-else mode after one game. Check out the Lions' dire straights here.
Wednesday, September 10, 2008
Monday, September 08, 2008
Packers win! Packers win!! Packers win!!!
The Packers defeated the ViQueens 24-19 in the season opener at Lambeau Field tonight. Aaron Rodgers threw for one TD pass and scored another on a QB sneak. He completed his last 10 passes in a row, and in the process established himself as the person with the second highest completion percentage in NFL history for a QB in his first NFL start, with 81.8 percent.
Key plays on the Packers side were a 56-yard completion to Greg Jennings to set up the first score; a great one-yard TD pass -- yes, there are such things -- from Rodgers to FB Korey Hall; a 76-yard punt return for a TD by Will Blackmon; a 50-something-yard run by Ryan Grant to set up the final TD; and an interception with under a minute to go by Atari Bigby to preserve the win. Key plays on the 'Queens side...who cares.
Rodgers looked very good. He made all the throws: deep, sideline, over the middle, improvised. He also used his legs to scramble for three first downs.
There were a couple of negatives. Actually quite a few on the penalty front. The Pack had 12 for 118 yards, including a costly lineman downfield penalty that negated a beautiful throw and catch by Rodgers and Donald Driver that would have been a 75-yard TD play. There was also a blocked field goal at the end of the first half, which was the result of a questionable coaching decision. With perhaps 20-some seconds remaining, around the 'Queens redzone, and a timeout available, instead of going once or twice to the endzone, Coach McCarthy opted to run the clock down and try the field goal. OK, folks worry about the possible interception. But what about the possible blocked field goal? Which is exactly what happened. Missed opportunity. Another series of questionable calls by McCarthy came as the clock wound down to about the 2 minute mark. He called three straight handoffs. Punt. Fortunately, Bigby and the defense preserved the victory.
The ViQueens have now lost the last five games against the Packers. Ya gots to like it!
More analysis and commentary in the days ahead. For now, enjoy this victory. And, perhaps even more so, be comfortable knowing the new QB can handle the job just fine.
Life is good when you're a Packers fan!
Key plays on the Packers side were a 56-yard completion to Greg Jennings to set up the first score; a great one-yard TD pass -- yes, there are such things -- from Rodgers to FB Korey Hall; a 76-yard punt return for a TD by Will Blackmon; a 50-something-yard run by Ryan Grant to set up the final TD; and an interception with under a minute to go by Atari Bigby to preserve the win. Key plays on the 'Queens side...who cares.
Rodgers looked very good. He made all the throws: deep, sideline, over the middle, improvised. He also used his legs to scramble for three first downs.
There were a couple of negatives. Actually quite a few on the penalty front. The Pack had 12 for 118 yards, including a costly lineman downfield penalty that negated a beautiful throw and catch by Rodgers and Donald Driver that would have been a 75-yard TD play. There was also a blocked field goal at the end of the first half, which was the result of a questionable coaching decision. With perhaps 20-some seconds remaining, around the 'Queens redzone, and a timeout available, instead of going once or twice to the endzone, Coach McCarthy opted to run the clock down and try the field goal. OK, folks worry about the possible interception. But what about the possible blocked field goal? Which is exactly what happened. Missed opportunity. Another series of questionable calls by McCarthy came as the clock wound down to about the 2 minute mark. He called three straight handoffs. Punt. Fortunately, Bigby and the defense preserved the victory.
The ViQueens have now lost the last five games against the Packers. Ya gots to like it!
More analysis and commentary in the days ahead. For now, enjoy this victory. And, perhaps even more so, be comfortable knowing the new QB can handle the job just fine.
Life is good when you're a Packers fan!
Packers kickoff just minutes away
For the first time since Lynn Dickey in 1983, a quarterback other than Brett Favre will be under center for the Packers on Monday Night Football. That is the historic nature of tonight's game for Aaron Rodgers at Lambeau against the ViQueens.
Those fans attending will have a rather unique memento of the occasion, too: their ticket has the face of ol' #4 staring back at them. Why? You may recall that when Brett decided to retire -- before he decided to unretire -- tonight's game was scheduled to retire his number. Great festivities. Etc. Now...not. Well, of course there will still be the excitement and thrills of the season opener at home. Then throw in the extra buzz that comes with Monday Night Football and it does still warrant our attention. Even without you-know-who who just happened to throw a couple TD passes yesterday in a winning effort for the NY Bretts...er, Jets, sorry.
But, let's get to tonight's game. Center Scott Wells and wide receiver James Jones are both inactive tonight. But A.J. Hawk and KGB are active. Those are probably the biggest names of note for the Packers whose absence or presence could affect the game. RB Ryan Grant will literally see his first carry of this season, having been active for a mere one play in the final preseason game. Don't expect him to carry the ball 20-30 times. Instead, expect to see a fair share of Brandon Jackson. How well the offensive line can open a lane for either back will also then determine to a degree how good a night QB Aaron Rodgers will have. And, as MNF commentator Tony Kornheiser said during a brief on-air interview with WTMJ radio in Milwaukee this afternoon, the pressure on Rodgers just increased exponentially given Favre's performance yesterday. It's bad enough to have to replace a legend, he said; it's even worse when that same guy threw a couple TD's and won the day before.
So...let's go. Packers 17 - Vikings 14.
Go Pack Go!!!
Those fans attending will have a rather unique memento of the occasion, too: their ticket has the face of ol' #4 staring back at them. Why? You may recall that when Brett decided to retire -- before he decided to unretire -- tonight's game was scheduled to retire his number. Great festivities. Etc. Now...not. Well, of course there will still be the excitement and thrills of the season opener at home. Then throw in the extra buzz that comes with Monday Night Football and it does still warrant our attention. Even without you-know-who who just happened to throw a couple TD passes yesterday in a winning effort for the NY Bretts...er, Jets, sorry.
But, let's get to tonight's game. Center Scott Wells and wide receiver James Jones are both inactive tonight. But A.J. Hawk and KGB are active. Those are probably the biggest names of note for the Packers whose absence or presence could affect the game. RB Ryan Grant will literally see his first carry of this season, having been active for a mere one play in the final preseason game. Don't expect him to carry the ball 20-30 times. Instead, expect to see a fair share of Brandon Jackson. How well the offensive line can open a lane for either back will also then determine to a degree how good a night QB Aaron Rodgers will have. And, as MNF commentator Tony Kornheiser said during a brief on-air interview with WTMJ radio in Milwaukee this afternoon, the pressure on Rodgers just increased exponentially given Favre's performance yesterday. It's bad enough to have to replace a legend, he said; it's even worse when that same guy threw a couple TD's and won the day before.
So...let's go. Packers 17 - Vikings 14.
Go Pack Go!!!
Sunday, September 07, 2008
Packer predictions and more
Even though the NFL season officially kicked off last Thursday night, for most fans it starts today. And for Packer fans, it comes Monday night, when the Pack meets the ViQueens at Lambeau Field and retire Brett Favre's number...no, wait...forgot...that last part was supposed to be on the agenda but, well, things happen as they say. The number retirement thing will have to wait a year or two. Never mind.
So, as we root for Brett's success in that funky Jets uniform beginning today against Miami -- after all, the better he does and the Jets do, the higher the draft pick the Packers receive next year -- we might also want to take a few moments to take a look at what some of the pundits are saying.
Might as well take first things first, which would be tomorrow night's game. Adam Duerson's "Inside the NFL" feature for Sports Illustrated has the Pack vs 'Queens game as the Game of the Week. He has a number of things to watch for in the game. But his bottom line? "I see Rodgers getting tossed around in this one, maybe even handing Minnesota a few defensive points. Add a score for A.P. (Adrian Peterson) and I've got the Vikings winning 14-9."
Admittedly, this game will be a tough one, as most games are these days between the Pack and 'Queens. Minnesota has arguably the best defensive front in the league. And the Packers' O-line is a bit nicked up with center Scott Wells questionable for the game. Factor in that the Pack's #3 receiver, James Jones, is also questionable and the ability of the Pack to use the passing game -- as it did last year against Minnesota -- to open up the run is a big question mark. Throw in the new QB and this will be a challenging opener. If the Packers defense can bottle up Peterson and force 'Queen's QB Tarvaris Jackson to win the game, the home field advantage may do the trick for the Pack.
I'll take the Pack 17-14 in a game that goes down to the wire.
You can read Duerson's SI.com article here.
Season overviews
While we have addressed the first game, there is plenty to be said about the entire season, of course. Most pundits are predicting the ViQueens to come out on top of the NFC North Division. Detroit, as usual, doesn't have much. Da Bearz still suck. Expectations are that, without Favre, the Pack will have a precipitous fall from the top, which basically leaves Minnesota on top by default.
If you care to read one reporter's opinion (again) of how the Packers blew it by letting Favre escape, and how this will affect the Packers fortunes this season, go here.
If you want to enter into a whole section of articles about virtually every aspect of the Packers -- beginning with Rodgers, to the defense, to the running game, etc. -- go here, and then check out the links in the righthand column for the individual stories of interest.
In particular, be sure to check out Bob McGinn's article in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, "Rating the 2008 Packers." McGinn is the Journal-Sentinel's longtime Packers beat reporter. He conducted the interview with Coach McCarthy linked to in yesterday's post. He's been around awhile and is well respected for his observations and insights. That's why it's a bit disturbing to have McGinn rate the Packers as having anywhere from a 4 to 8 game drop off in wins versus a season ago (in an article available in the print edition of the paper and the subscription-only Packers Insider online edition...if you are really quick on your browser stop/refresh buttons you may be able to see the entire article here before you get the "pay up" screen if you are not a subscriber).
In fact, in looking at all the Journal-Sentinel's sportswriters' predictions, McGinn is the most pessimistic, giving the Packers a 6-10 final record. Two of the others give the Pack a 10-6 final record and the remaining two give the Pack an 11-5 record.
PackerFansUnited.com season prediction
In looking at the Packers' schedule, I have to concur with those who are giving the Pack a final 10-6 record. There will be perhaps two games the Packers loose that they should have won. Conversely, there will be two games the Pack shouldn't win that they do. So those games are a wash. They will win the series with both Da Bearz and the Lions. There's four wins. I think they will split with the ViQueens, that's five wins. They beat Atlanta and Tennessee...we're up to seven wins. Ditto for the Saints and Texans. There's nine wins. Take your pick for (at least) one more against Tampa Bay, Seattle, Carolina or Jacksonville.
Packers. 10-6. Playoffs. Whether as division champ -- if they can pull off a sweep of the 'Queens -- or as a wild card team remains to be seen.
As always, a lot depends upon injuries. The Pack goes in to the opener a bit banged up. But if key players can stay healthy, our prediction is a good one. On the other hand, a lot of this depends upon whether new starting QB Aaron Rodgers can stay healthy and play in all 16 games. If he goes down early -- or often -- McGinn's 8-game drop off from last year could come into play quite easily. But it's the start of the season and we're thinking nothing but positives here.
Go Pack Go!!!
So, as we root for Brett's success in that funky Jets uniform beginning today against Miami -- after all, the better he does and the Jets do, the higher the draft pick the Packers receive next year -- we might also want to take a few moments to take a look at what some of the pundits are saying.
Might as well take first things first, which would be tomorrow night's game. Adam Duerson's "Inside the NFL" feature for Sports Illustrated has the Pack vs 'Queens game as the Game of the Week. He has a number of things to watch for in the game. But his bottom line? "I see Rodgers getting tossed around in this one, maybe even handing Minnesota a few defensive points. Add a score for A.P. (Adrian Peterson) and I've got the Vikings winning 14-9."
Admittedly, this game will be a tough one, as most games are these days between the Pack and 'Queens. Minnesota has arguably the best defensive front in the league. And the Packers' O-line is a bit nicked up with center Scott Wells questionable for the game. Factor in that the Pack's #3 receiver, James Jones, is also questionable and the ability of the Pack to use the passing game -- as it did last year against Minnesota -- to open up the run is a big question mark. Throw in the new QB and this will be a challenging opener. If the Packers defense can bottle up Peterson and force 'Queen's QB Tarvaris Jackson to win the game, the home field advantage may do the trick for the Pack.
I'll take the Pack 17-14 in a game that goes down to the wire.
You can read Duerson's SI.com article here.
Season overviews
While we have addressed the first game, there is plenty to be said about the entire season, of course. Most pundits are predicting the ViQueens to come out on top of the NFC North Division. Detroit, as usual, doesn't have much. Da Bearz still suck. Expectations are that, without Favre, the Pack will have a precipitous fall from the top, which basically leaves Minnesota on top by default.
If you care to read one reporter's opinion (again) of how the Packers blew it by letting Favre escape, and how this will affect the Packers fortunes this season, go here.
If you want to enter into a whole section of articles about virtually every aspect of the Packers -- beginning with Rodgers, to the defense, to the running game, etc. -- go here, and then check out the links in the righthand column for the individual stories of interest.
In particular, be sure to check out Bob McGinn's article in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, "Rating the 2008 Packers." McGinn is the Journal-Sentinel's longtime Packers beat reporter. He conducted the interview with Coach McCarthy linked to in yesterday's post. He's been around awhile and is well respected for his observations and insights. That's why it's a bit disturbing to have McGinn rate the Packers as having anywhere from a 4 to 8 game drop off in wins versus a season ago (in an article available in the print edition of the paper and the subscription-only Packers Insider online edition...if you are really quick on your browser stop/refresh buttons you may be able to see the entire article here before you get the "pay up" screen if you are not a subscriber).
In fact, in looking at all the Journal-Sentinel's sportswriters' predictions, McGinn is the most pessimistic, giving the Packers a 6-10 final record. Two of the others give the Pack a 10-6 final record and the remaining two give the Pack an 11-5 record.
PackerFansUnited.com season prediction
In looking at the Packers' schedule, I have to concur with those who are giving the Pack a final 10-6 record. There will be perhaps two games the Packers loose that they should have won. Conversely, there will be two games the Pack shouldn't win that they do. So those games are a wash. They will win the series with both Da Bearz and the Lions. There's four wins. I think they will split with the ViQueens, that's five wins. They beat Atlanta and Tennessee...we're up to seven wins. Ditto for the Saints and Texans. There's nine wins. Take your pick for (at least) one more against Tampa Bay, Seattle, Carolina or Jacksonville.
Packers. 10-6. Playoffs. Whether as division champ -- if they can pull off a sweep of the 'Queens -- or as a wild card team remains to be seen.
As always, a lot depends upon injuries. The Pack goes in to the opener a bit banged up. But if key players can stay healthy, our prediction is a good one. On the other hand, a lot of this depends upon whether new starting QB Aaron Rodgers can stay healthy and play in all 16 games. If he goes down early -- or often -- McGinn's 8-game drop off from last year could come into play quite easily. But it's the start of the season and we're thinking nothing but positives here.
Go Pack Go!!!
Saturday, September 06, 2008
A moment with McCarthy
As the Packers head into their season opener Monday night at Lambeau Field against the ViQueens, Head Coach Mike McCarthy had a one-on-one interview with Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel Packers reporter, Bob McGinn.
It's worth a read. It covers a lot of territory that Packer fans will be interested in. Check it out here.
It's worth a read. It covers a lot of territory that Packer fans will be interested in. Check it out here.
Wednesday, September 03, 2008
Center Scott Wells doubtful for opener
Just when you thought it was safe to have a solid starting offensive line geared up for Monday night's opener against the ViQueens...bam! (to quote Emeril). Not so fast. Seems as if center Scott Wells' lower back muscle injury reared its ugly head again. After being held out of practice for 16 days and seeing a specialist recently, it turns out the back is still causing problems. Wells says he can deal with the pain but, as he says in this article, "it’s just sometimes when you have back pain you get weak in your legs and so on and so forth. So that’s the whole thing we’re trying to avoid.” Yeah, weak legs on the center would not be a good thing.
So, if Wells is unable to go Monday night, the lineup that started against the Titans in the last preseason game would be called upon again: LT Chad Clifton, LG Daryn Colledge, C Jason Spitz, RG Tony Moll and RT Mark Tauscher. Pretty darn good, usually, thanks in no small measure to the Packers' penchant for shuffling players at multiple positions. If Spitz gets injured, Colledge would be next at center. Still, given that the 'Queens D-line is one of the best in the league, it would be best if Wells could play, but only if he is at 100 percent.
So, start saying those novenas for healing, Packer fans. We could use a fully healthy O-line going into the opener. A number of other players are also sore in various places, so maybe make it a blanket type thing. And, of course, be sure to ask for special intercessionary help from St. Vince.
So, if Wells is unable to go Monday night, the lineup that started against the Titans in the last preseason game would be called upon again: LT Chad Clifton, LG Daryn Colledge, C Jason Spitz, RG Tony Moll and RT Mark Tauscher. Pretty darn good, usually, thanks in no small measure to the Packers' penchant for shuffling players at multiple positions. If Spitz gets injured, Colledge would be next at center. Still, given that the 'Queens D-line is one of the best in the league, it would be best if Wells could play, but only if he is at 100 percent.
So, start saying those novenas for healing, Packer fans. We could use a fully healthy O-line going into the opener. A number of other players are also sore in various places, so maybe make it a blanket type thing. And, of course, be sure to ask for special intercessionary help from St. Vince.
Tuesday, September 02, 2008
Packers punt Ryan, name Flynn #2 QB
News came late yesterday that the Packers released their punter of a couple years, Jon Ryan, and replaced him with former Redskins' punter, Derrick Frost. This was one of those possibilities that seemed to fly under the radar most of training camp. Ryan had a poor opening preseason game against Cincinnati, but boomed his way back to a 54.8 yards per punt average in the last two games.
Apparently, though, it was this inconsistency issue that doomed Ryan's stay with the Packers. There has never been a question about his leg strength. But, to paraphrase Forrest Gump, Ryan's punting was like a box of chocolates: you never knew what you're going to get.
The same, it would seem, could also be said about Frost, however. According to an article in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, "Last season, Frost started like gangbusters, averaging 45.9 yards per punt in the first three games, but his season gradually went south, starting with a poor performance against the Packers Oct. 14. He went from fourth in the league in gross average and seventh in net after three games to 28th and 16th after seven weeks." The article continued with the comparative stats: Ryan ranked ninth in gross average (44.4) and 11th in net (37.6) while Frost was 28th (41.0) in gross and 22nd in net (36.4).
So, why the move? Apparently, like many jobs, it's who you know. In this case, Packers' special teams coach, Mike Stock, had coached at Washington when Frost was first trying to land a position as an undrafted free agent. He liked Frost then. In fact, according to the above-mentioned article, "When Stock was special teams coach in Washington, he tried to get Frost to sign as an undrafted rookie, but Frost wound up signing with Philadelphia. Later, Frost attended a tryout camp for NFL Europa where he worked with Stock. 'If it makes any sense, Mike Stock is the special teams coach I know the most and haven’t played for,' Frost said."
Stock was apparently able to convince GM Ted Thompson that Frost was a safer pick to go forward with than Ryan.
Frost will also take over the holding duties on field goals and extra points from Ryan. He held for kickers all four of his seasons in the NFL and also in college at Northern Iowa.
Given that the Packers also now have a new long snapper, Brett Goode, and Frost as the new holder, and less than a week to get in sync with kicker Mason Crosby, things could be quite an adventure for the kicking game early on. Expect opposing special teams units to test things with additional pressure.
Not a situation one would have hoped for less than a week before the regular season kickoff.
Flynn named #2 QB
Not too surprisingly based upon performances in the preseason, seventh-round pick Matt Flynn was named yesterday by Coach Mike McCarthy as the immediate backup to starting QB Aaron Rodgers. He beat out the more highly regarded Brian Brohm.
According to a report in the Green Bay Press-Gazette, Coach McCarthy said, “We just felt Matt was a little more productive than Brian in the preseason. But it’s a competition that will continue. Matt has to hold the spot, and Brian will have an opportunity to get the spot back. Competition is healthy. They’re both young. I’ve said it all along, they just need to play; they just need reps.” But, as the article points out, most of Brohm's reps now will come with the scout team while the few backup QB snaps with the first team offense will go to Flynn.
It was clear to those watching the preseason games that -- barring the Pack picking up a veteran QB to back up Rodgers -- Flynn should have the job. Particularly in the last game against the Titans, leading an excellent two-minute drive that brought the Pack within a 2-point conversion of tying the game, Flynn reminded at least a few fans of another young gun once upon a time. What was that guy's name? Oh, yeah...Brett Favre.
Congrats, Mr. Flynn. And, Mr. Brohm...keep on keepin' on. Many Packer fans thought you were a steal in the draft. You didn't perform up to even your own expectations so far. But that's so far. There are many miles to go...
Apparently, though, it was this inconsistency issue that doomed Ryan's stay with the Packers. There has never been a question about his leg strength. But, to paraphrase Forrest Gump, Ryan's punting was like a box of chocolates: you never knew what you're going to get.
The same, it would seem, could also be said about Frost, however. According to an article in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, "Last season, Frost started like gangbusters, averaging 45.9 yards per punt in the first three games, but his season gradually went south, starting with a poor performance against the Packers Oct. 14. He went from fourth in the league in gross average and seventh in net after three games to 28th and 16th after seven weeks." The article continued with the comparative stats: Ryan ranked ninth in gross average (44.4) and 11th in net (37.6) while Frost was 28th (41.0) in gross and 22nd in net (36.4).
So, why the move? Apparently, like many jobs, it's who you know. In this case, Packers' special teams coach, Mike Stock, had coached at Washington when Frost was first trying to land a position as an undrafted free agent. He liked Frost then. In fact, according to the above-mentioned article, "When Stock was special teams coach in Washington, he tried to get Frost to sign as an undrafted rookie, but Frost wound up signing with Philadelphia. Later, Frost attended a tryout camp for NFL Europa where he worked with Stock. 'If it makes any sense, Mike Stock is the special teams coach I know the most and haven’t played for,' Frost said."
Stock was apparently able to convince GM Ted Thompson that Frost was a safer pick to go forward with than Ryan.
Frost will also take over the holding duties on field goals and extra points from Ryan. He held for kickers all four of his seasons in the NFL and also in college at Northern Iowa.
Given that the Packers also now have a new long snapper, Brett Goode, and Frost as the new holder, and less than a week to get in sync with kicker Mason Crosby, things could be quite an adventure for the kicking game early on. Expect opposing special teams units to test things with additional pressure.
Not a situation one would have hoped for less than a week before the regular season kickoff.
Flynn named #2 QB
Not too surprisingly based upon performances in the preseason, seventh-round pick Matt Flynn was named yesterday by Coach Mike McCarthy as the immediate backup to starting QB Aaron Rodgers. He beat out the more highly regarded Brian Brohm.
According to a report in the Green Bay Press-Gazette, Coach McCarthy said, “We just felt Matt was a little more productive than Brian in the preseason. But it’s a competition that will continue. Matt has to hold the spot, and Brian will have an opportunity to get the spot back. Competition is healthy. They’re both young. I’ve said it all along, they just need to play; they just need reps.” But, as the article points out, most of Brohm's reps now will come with the scout team while the few backup QB snaps with the first team offense will go to Flynn.
It was clear to those watching the preseason games that -- barring the Pack picking up a veteran QB to back up Rodgers -- Flynn should have the job. Particularly in the last game against the Titans, leading an excellent two-minute drive that brought the Pack within a 2-point conversion of tying the game, Flynn reminded at least a few fans of another young gun once upon a time. What was that guy's name? Oh, yeah...Brett Favre.
Congrats, Mr. Flynn. And, Mr. Brohm...keep on keepin' on. Many Packer fans thought you were a steal in the draft. You didn't perform up to even your own expectations so far. But that's so far. There are many miles to go...
Monday, September 01, 2008
Packers snap up snapper
OK, it's a bit of a trite headline, but sans the morning cuppa java...well, anyway...
Who would have thought that one of the biggest pieces of news coming out of the weekend's roster moves would be the naming of a long snapper? But that's what happened after J.J. Jansen was placed on injured reserve with a knee injury sustained Thursday night against the Titans. The prevailing wisdom was that the Pack would put in a waiver claim on Thomas Gafford who had been in two Packers' training camps and had been released by the Bears. Instead, for the first time in his tenure as the Packers’ GM, Ted Thompson didn't put in a waiver claim on any player released by another team.
As noted in a post here yesterday and reported widely in the media, the Packers were holding a three-way tryout for snapper. And the winner? Brett Goode. He won a snap-off (copyright!!!) against Tim Bugg and Ryan Senser. According to the online edition of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, "Goode was a four-year letterman at Arkansas, where he snapped on punts for four years and placements his final three. Goode was signed as an undrafted free agent by the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2007 and lasted until Aug. 21. He was signed by the Jaguars again in the spring but was released June 19." He is 6 feet 1 inch tall and claims he weighed in at 260.
What was he doing since being released by the Jags? Remember in yesterday's post that I suggested if you happened to be driving near Green Bay you might want to just stop in and try out? Well, it wasn't quite like that. But not far from it. Goode is quoted as follows in the Journal-Sentinel article: "We were forming up a driveway, getting ready to pour concrete and my agent called and said they were wanting to bring me in for a workout,” Brett Goode said Sunday night. “It wasn’t too hard of a decision to quit doing that. Just headed on the way.” So, he was pouring concrete. A noble profession indeed...where would we be without it after all? But, when given the chance to snap a football in Green Bay or pour concrete in Arkansas, what would you do? Exactly.
So, Mr. Goode has until next Monday night to work with placekicker Mason Crosby and punter Jon Ryan, who had previously had four months working with J.J. Jansen. Let's hope -- get ready for the mundane cliche! -- that Goode is in fact good. We'd all hate to see the season opener with the ViQueens come down to how a long snap is handled.
The flip side of this roster addition, of course, is that somebody on the existing squad has got to go. Among the "bubble" players that could be released to make room for Goode are said to be LB Tracy White, S Charlie Peprah, OT Breno Giacomini or CB Jarrett Bush.
Who would have thought that one of the biggest pieces of news coming out of the weekend's roster moves would be the naming of a long snapper? But that's what happened after J.J. Jansen was placed on injured reserve with a knee injury sustained Thursday night against the Titans. The prevailing wisdom was that the Pack would put in a waiver claim on Thomas Gafford who had been in two Packers' training camps and had been released by the Bears. Instead, for the first time in his tenure as the Packers’ GM, Ted Thompson didn't put in a waiver claim on any player released by another team.
As noted in a post here yesterday and reported widely in the media, the Packers were holding a three-way tryout for snapper. And the winner? Brett Goode. He won a snap-off (copyright!!!) against Tim Bugg and Ryan Senser. According to the online edition of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, "Goode was a four-year letterman at Arkansas, where he snapped on punts for four years and placements his final three. Goode was signed as an undrafted free agent by the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2007 and lasted until Aug. 21. He was signed by the Jaguars again in the spring but was released June 19." He is 6 feet 1 inch tall and claims he weighed in at 260.
What was he doing since being released by the Jags? Remember in yesterday's post that I suggested if you happened to be driving near Green Bay you might want to just stop in and try out? Well, it wasn't quite like that. But not far from it. Goode is quoted as follows in the Journal-Sentinel article: "We were forming up a driveway, getting ready to pour concrete and my agent called and said they were wanting to bring me in for a workout,” Brett Goode said Sunday night. “It wasn’t too hard of a decision to quit doing that. Just headed on the way.” So, he was pouring concrete. A noble profession indeed...where would we be without it after all? But, when given the chance to snap a football in Green Bay or pour concrete in Arkansas, what would you do? Exactly.
So, Mr. Goode has until next Monday night to work with placekicker Mason Crosby and punter Jon Ryan, who had previously had four months working with J.J. Jansen. Let's hope -- get ready for the mundane cliche! -- that Goode is in fact good. We'd all hate to see the season opener with the ViQueens come down to how a long snap is handled.
The flip side of this roster addition, of course, is that somebody on the existing squad has got to go. Among the "bubble" players that could be released to make room for Goode are said to be LB Tracy White, S Charlie Peprah, OT Breno Giacomini or CB Jarrett Bush.
Sunday, August 31, 2008
Packers sign 8 to practice squad
From the official Packers' press release:
"The Green Bay Packers signed eight players to the practice squad Sunday. Ted Thompson, Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations, announced the signings.
Signed to the practice squad were wide receiver Jake Allen, center Brennen Carvalho, tight end Joey Haynos, linebacker Danny Lansanah, defensive tackle Alfred Malone, cornerback Joe Porter, wide receiver Brett Swain and running back DeShawn Wynn."
"The Green Bay Packers signed eight players to the practice squad Sunday. Ted Thompson, Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations, announced the signings.
Signed to the practice squad were wide receiver Jake Allen, center Brennen Carvalho, tight end Joey Haynos, linebacker Danny Lansanah, defensive tackle Alfred Malone, cornerback Joe Porter, wide receiver Brett Swain and running back DeShawn Wynn."
Herron and Morency released among Packers' cuts
One or the other was expected to be part of the running back corps. Actually, the likelihood seemed to be that both would make the club. In the end, both veterans Noah Herron and Vernand Morency were cut as the Packers got down to their 53-man roster. Along with DeShawn Wynn, released earlier in the week, these three backs were beaten out by undrafted rookie free agent Kregg Lumpkin. As part of their backfield decisions, the Packers kept two fullbacks -- a rarity in the league these days -- in the persons of Korey Hall and John Kuhn.
The roster at this time contains no long snapper, although that will likely change soon. Rookie snapper, J.J. Jansen, was one of three players placed on the injured reserve list after his knee injury in Thursday night's final preseason game. The Packers are expected to put in a claim on Thomas Gafford, who was waived by the Bears a few days ago. Gafford was in the Packers' '06 training camp and again this summer, before being waived Aug. 3 because the team needed a roster spot. The Packers reportedly are also holding tryouts today for at least three long snappers...so, if you happen to be driving near Green Bay today...what the heck...stop on in...especially if you can precision snap a football five to fifteen yards. For more on the snapper situation, check out this story.
The Packers did keep seven linebackers...for now. One of those players, possibly special teams standout Tracey White, might be the odd man out when the Pack adds a long snapper.
There will be a few more moves likely made this morning. Teams have until 11 a.m. to make claims on waived players. Teams will be informed by the league in early afternoon whom they have been awarded as part of the process.
For a story on the running backs and other moves, check out this article. For commentary on the players kept, check out this article.
For the Packers official notice of cuts, etc., check it out here. If you prefer to get the same news here, the following is from the official notice:
"The Green Bay Packers released 19 players and placed three on injured reserve. Ted Thompson, Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations, announced the transactions Saturday.
Released Saturday were wide receiver Jake Allen, cornerback Scorpio Babers, defensive tackle Conrad Bolston, center Brennen Carvalho, safety Tyrone Culver, linebacker Spencer Havner, tight end Joey Haynos, running back Noah Herron, guard Ryan Keenan, linebacker Danny Lansanah, defensive tackle Alfred Malone, running back Vernand Morency, defensive tackle Daniel Muir, cornerback Joe Porter, wide receiver Johnny Quinn, wide receiver Taj Smith, wide receiver Brett Swain, tackle Orrin Thompson and fullback Corey White.
Defensive tackle Rodney Allen, center Junius Coston and long snapper J.J. Jansen were placed on injured reserve."
The roster at this time contains no long snapper, although that will likely change soon. Rookie snapper, J.J. Jansen, was one of three players placed on the injured reserve list after his knee injury in Thursday night's final preseason game. The Packers are expected to put in a claim on Thomas Gafford, who was waived by the Bears a few days ago. Gafford was in the Packers' '06 training camp and again this summer, before being waived Aug. 3 because the team needed a roster spot. The Packers reportedly are also holding tryouts today for at least three long snappers...so, if you happen to be driving near Green Bay today...what the heck...stop on in...especially if you can precision snap a football five to fifteen yards. For more on the snapper situation, check out this story.
The Packers did keep seven linebackers...for now. One of those players, possibly special teams standout Tracey White, might be the odd man out when the Pack adds a long snapper.
There will be a few more moves likely made this morning. Teams have until 11 a.m. to make claims on waived players. Teams will be informed by the league in early afternoon whom they have been awarded as part of the process.
For a story on the running backs and other moves, check out this article. For commentary on the players kept, check out this article.
For the Packers official notice of cuts, etc., check it out here. If you prefer to get the same news here, the following is from the official notice:
"The Green Bay Packers released 19 players and placed three on injured reserve. Ted Thompson, Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations, announced the transactions Saturday.
Released Saturday were wide receiver Jake Allen, cornerback Scorpio Babers, defensive tackle Conrad Bolston, center Brennen Carvalho, safety Tyrone Culver, linebacker Spencer Havner, tight end Joey Haynos, running back Noah Herron, guard Ryan Keenan, linebacker Danny Lansanah, defensive tackle Alfred Malone, running back Vernand Morency, defensive tackle Daniel Muir, cornerback Joe Porter, wide receiver Johnny Quinn, wide receiver Taj Smith, wide receiver Brett Swain, tackle Orrin Thompson and fullback Corey White.
Defensive tackle Rodney Allen, center Junius Coston and long snapper J.J. Jansen were placed on injured reserve."
Friday, August 29, 2008
Packers 21 - Titans 23
The Packers' offensive starters were expected to play about 10 plays last evening. Ryan Grant was supposed to get a carry or two as at least a bit of a warm up to the regular season. Didn't happen. It was one and done. After taking the opening kick off, Aaron Rodgers connected with Greg Jennings on a sideline pass between double coverage that wound up turning into a 68-yard touchdown. Take a seat, boys, grab the baseball caps, you're done for the evening. And basically, the Packers were as well, losing 23-21 and settling for a preseason record of 1-3.
After the departure of the first team offense, it was fairly uneventful from the Packers' side of the ball for quite a while, as coach McCarthy shuffled in the two rookie quarterbacks and a host of other players. The most compelling note of the night, perhaps, was that Tennessee's first string offense played into the third quarter against the Pack's second and third stringers, got into the red zone at least four times with no TDs to show for it all. The biggest damage was done by Titans' QB Vince Young who used his running ability to gash the Packers repeatedly. The Titans first string defense played the entire first half against the Packers' backups.
McCarthy alternated back up QBs Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn every couple series. Flynn clearly looked better not only last night, but throughout the preseason. Flynn directed the Packers second and third scoring drives, with the last being a final second TD pass to bring the Packers within two points. The two point conversion pass to the corner of the end zone was caught but the receiver was only able to get down one foot before being pushed out of bounds (a rule change now allows the defensive back to push out the receiver, so no more judgement calls as to whether he would or wouldn't have gotten a foot down). Anyway, Flynn looked very good in directing the two-minute offense and helped himself and his team considerably with his scrambling ability. Brohm, on the other hand, looked like a deer in the headlights on occasion, failing to get rid of the ball under pressure several times and getting sacked instead.
Still, coach McCarthy wasn't ready to say after the game who would be the Number Two QB behind Rodgers. When interviewed on local radio this morning, he also left the radio hosts with the clear impression he was leaning toward Brohm. Based upon performance, one doesn't see how that would be justified. It is also unclear as to whether GM Ted Thompson will look to pick up a veteran QB to go into the season, just in case. Wayne Larrivee, the radio "voice of the Packers," said on-air this morning that while he has no way of knowing, he believes the Packers will start the season with Rodgers and the rookies. That's a pretty big chance to take. Although McCarthy is reported to have said that if Brohm or Flynn had to step in for Rodgers that the team would help pick them up. Sounds good for part of a game or two. But if something happened that sidelined Rodgers for the season? Hmmm...we'll see. Or better yet, hope we don't see. You can read an article about the two QBs here.
The other areas where competition is keen -- linebacker and running back -- were especially so again last night. LB Desmond Bishop had a great game last night and was seemingly all over the field. Abdul Hodge played well. Tracey White was solid before leaving with an ankle injury in the second half. At running back, Noah Herron, Vernand Morency and Kregg Lumpkin again all made statements as to why they should remain on the roster although it is likely only two of the three will do so.
There will be some tough decisions coming for the Packers staff over the next day or so as they trim down to the 53-man roster.
One of those decisions might be what to do about a long snapper. After about a zillion years -- give or take -- with Rob Davis at that slot, the Packers had undrafted rookie from Notre Dame, J.J. Jansen, at that spot. During the fourth quarter, after making a high punt snap to Jon Ryan, Jansen injured his left knee during Ryan's scramble. Depending upon the nature of Jansen's injury, the Pack might be looking for a replacement on the waiver wires this weekend. Of course, Rob Davis is still with the Packers, just at a desk job now. Could he be talked into "unretiring" if need be? Hey, it happened with Brett so why not? This is one to watch. Long snappers are like the Ed Nortons of football. When they do their job, you don't even know they are there. When they don't they really stink up the place. (Hopefully, there's enough readers out there to, first, know who Ed Norton is, and, second, to remember his occupation to make that "stink" reference meaningful.)
Another injury of note last night was to offensive lineman Junius Coston, who was carted off the field in the second quarter after taking a blow to the knee. In a deju vu type moment, Coston was also injured in the preseason finale against Tennessee in 2006, sustaining a medial collateral ligament injury.
One reporter's roster
And, no, that wouldn't be this humble poster. Rather, it's from Mike Vandermause, sports editor of the Green Bay Press-Gazette. He has an intriguing line up, and it might not be that far off from what Ted Thompson winds up doing. You can check it out here.
After the departure of the first team offense, it was fairly uneventful from the Packers' side of the ball for quite a while, as coach McCarthy shuffled in the two rookie quarterbacks and a host of other players. The most compelling note of the night, perhaps, was that Tennessee's first string offense played into the third quarter against the Pack's second and third stringers, got into the red zone at least four times with no TDs to show for it all. The biggest damage was done by Titans' QB Vince Young who used his running ability to gash the Packers repeatedly. The Titans first string defense played the entire first half against the Packers' backups.
McCarthy alternated back up QBs Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn every couple series. Flynn clearly looked better not only last night, but throughout the preseason. Flynn directed the Packers second and third scoring drives, with the last being a final second TD pass to bring the Packers within two points. The two point conversion pass to the corner of the end zone was caught but the receiver was only able to get down one foot before being pushed out of bounds (a rule change now allows the defensive back to push out the receiver, so no more judgement calls as to whether he would or wouldn't have gotten a foot down). Anyway, Flynn looked very good in directing the two-minute offense and helped himself and his team considerably with his scrambling ability. Brohm, on the other hand, looked like a deer in the headlights on occasion, failing to get rid of the ball under pressure several times and getting sacked instead.
Still, coach McCarthy wasn't ready to say after the game who would be the Number Two QB behind Rodgers. When interviewed on local radio this morning, he also left the radio hosts with the clear impression he was leaning toward Brohm. Based upon performance, one doesn't see how that would be justified. It is also unclear as to whether GM Ted Thompson will look to pick up a veteran QB to go into the season, just in case. Wayne Larrivee, the radio "voice of the Packers," said on-air this morning that while he has no way of knowing, he believes the Packers will start the season with Rodgers and the rookies. That's a pretty big chance to take. Although McCarthy is reported to have said that if Brohm or Flynn had to step in for Rodgers that the team would help pick them up. Sounds good for part of a game or two. But if something happened that sidelined Rodgers for the season? Hmmm...we'll see. Or better yet, hope we don't see. You can read an article about the two QBs here.
The other areas where competition is keen -- linebacker and running back -- were especially so again last night. LB Desmond Bishop had a great game last night and was seemingly all over the field. Abdul Hodge played well. Tracey White was solid before leaving with an ankle injury in the second half. At running back, Noah Herron, Vernand Morency and Kregg Lumpkin again all made statements as to why they should remain on the roster although it is likely only two of the three will do so.
There will be some tough decisions coming for the Packers staff over the next day or so as they trim down to the 53-man roster.
One of those decisions might be what to do about a long snapper. After about a zillion years -- give or take -- with Rob Davis at that slot, the Packers had undrafted rookie from Notre Dame, J.J. Jansen, at that spot. During the fourth quarter, after making a high punt snap to Jon Ryan, Jansen injured his left knee during Ryan's scramble. Depending upon the nature of Jansen's injury, the Pack might be looking for a replacement on the waiver wires this weekend. Of course, Rob Davis is still with the Packers, just at a desk job now. Could he be talked into "unretiring" if need be? Hey, it happened with Brett so why not? This is one to watch. Long snappers are like the Ed Nortons of football. When they do their job, you don't even know they are there. When they don't they really stink up the place. (Hopefully, there's enough readers out there to, first, know who Ed Norton is, and, second, to remember his occupation to make that "stink" reference meaningful.)
Another injury of note last night was to offensive lineman Junius Coston, who was carted off the field in the second quarter after taking a blow to the knee. In a deju vu type moment, Coston was also injured in the preseason finale against Tennessee in 2006, sustaining a medial collateral ligament injury.
One reporter's roster
And, no, that wouldn't be this humble poster. Rather, it's from Mike Vandermause, sports editor of the Green Bay Press-Gazette. He has an intriguing line up, and it might not be that far off from what Ted Thompson winds up doing. You can check it out here.
Thursday, August 28, 2008
Packers vs. Titans preview
The Packers take on the Tennessee Titans tonight - less than 30 minutes from now actually -- at Lambeau Field. Starters are expected to play about 10 plays for the Packers, while the Titans' starters, according to head coach Jeff Fisher, may play into the second half.
The key for tonight's game is the number of players playing for roster spots. Teams have to be down to the league-mandated 53-man squad by Saturday. That means about 20 players will be cut within the next two days.
As has been noted here in prior posts, the most competitive area is at running back where there are reportedly two spots open, with three players competing for them. Noah Herron, Vernand Morency and Kregg Lumpkin will be looking to perform well tonight. Another area where tough cuts will likely be made is at linebacker. Again, too many players available for one too few spots.
One area that was originally thought of as a place of depth was defensive line. But with lots of injuries, some of the lesser-knowns need to step up. In doing so, they may also be earning a spot long term. Particularly if they can exhibit a pass rush, as well as stop the run...neither of which the Packers have shown much of an ability to do yet this preseason.
It will also be intriguing to watch the two rookie backup quarterbacks. Neither Brian Brohm nor Matt Flynn have provided much confidence that, should something happen to starter Aaron Rodgers, the Packers will still have an effective offense. One or the other needs to demonstrate consistency tonight, and they both will be given plenty of opportunity to do so given Rodgers' limited playing time.
The final score won't matter. Getting starters out without injuries and having players -- especially for the 6 spots which head coach Mike McCarthy says are still up in the air -- step up and claim their spot decisively will be the key outcomes tonight.
The key for tonight's game is the number of players playing for roster spots. Teams have to be down to the league-mandated 53-man squad by Saturday. That means about 20 players will be cut within the next two days.
As has been noted here in prior posts, the most competitive area is at running back where there are reportedly two spots open, with three players competing for them. Noah Herron, Vernand Morency and Kregg Lumpkin will be looking to perform well tonight. Another area where tough cuts will likely be made is at linebacker. Again, too many players available for one too few spots.
One area that was originally thought of as a place of depth was defensive line. But with lots of injuries, some of the lesser-knowns need to step up. In doing so, they may also be earning a spot long term. Particularly if they can exhibit a pass rush, as well as stop the run...neither of which the Packers have shown much of an ability to do yet this preseason.
It will also be intriguing to watch the two rookie backup quarterbacks. Neither Brian Brohm nor Matt Flynn have provided much confidence that, should something happen to starter Aaron Rodgers, the Packers will still have an effective offense. One or the other needs to demonstrate consistency tonight, and they both will be given plenty of opportunity to do so given Rodgers' limited playing time.
The final score won't matter. Getting starters out without injuries and having players -- especially for the 6 spots which head coach Mike McCarthy says are still up in the air -- step up and claim their spot decisively will be the key outcomes tonight.
Tuesday, August 26, 2008
Harrell to have surgery
Following on the heels of yesterday's announcement that last year's first round draft pick, Justin Harrell, was being placed on the reserve/physically unable to perform list, word came that Harrell would be having arthroscopic back surgery to hopefully repair the damage from the weightlifting injury he incurred this Spring. He had surgery in April, but apparently aggravated the injury in July, requiring this second surgery. This situation continues Harrell's history of injuries while an undergrad at Tennessee, a situation which many fans and pundits alike believed should have been a red flag to anyone considering drafting him...especially in the first round (a-hem...Ted, are you listening???)
An article in the Green Bay Press-Gazette relates the following:
Harrell said last week there had been no recent discussions about further surgery, but that apparently changed in the past day or two after he received a second opinion.
“He’s gotten himself in remarkable shape. I think our guys have done a great job in the rehab,” General Manager Ted Thompson said of Harrell. “But we've reached a point where we’ve sort of plateaued, and looking out over the timeline, we felt like it was going to take a few weeks without doing anything, but maybe doing a little extra procedure might hurry things along.”
Any player placed on the PUP list is barred from practicing or playing for a minimum of six weeks, after which the team has three weeks to evaluate the player and decide whether to restore him to the active roster.
Putting Harrell on the list buys the Packers as much as 2½ months to make a decision on whether he’ll play this season. He won’t count against the 53-man limit, which teams must reach by 3 p.m. Saturday. He’ll become eligible to practice on Oct. 14, two days after the Packers’ sixth game, and could be reinstated as late as Nov. 11, two days after the ninth game.
Without getting into specifics, Thompson said the latest surgery would be a little different than the one Harrell underwent in April and would be done soon.
“The quicker the better, obviously, because then you can kind of start back on the whole recovery thing,” Thompson said.
“It’s too bad. He’s worked very hard, and I know being a high-profile pick, a No. 1 pick, there’s a lot of pressure put on that and expectations of fans. It’s not his fault, and he’s trying his best to get back, and we’re still counting on him to help us this year.”
You can read the entire article here.
When the announcement broke yesterday, several local media outlets started to toss out the word "bust" in reference to Harrell. While it still might be too early to come to that conclusion, pending the results of the surgery and Harrell's ability to rehab, it appears that things are headed in that direction. One can only hope that the young man is able to get healthy, whether or not he plays for the Packers. But we'd also like to see what he could do on the playing field. Particularly given the current depleted situation on the defensive line, a healthy and productive Harrell would be a plus. Wishful thinking? Perhaps. But at least as concerns Harrell in year number two, that's all we've got.
An article in the Green Bay Press-Gazette relates the following:
Harrell said last week there had been no recent discussions about further surgery, but that apparently changed in the past day or two after he received a second opinion.
“He’s gotten himself in remarkable shape. I think our guys have done a great job in the rehab,” General Manager Ted Thompson said of Harrell. “But we've reached a point where we’ve sort of plateaued, and looking out over the timeline, we felt like it was going to take a few weeks without doing anything, but maybe doing a little extra procedure might hurry things along.”
Any player placed on the PUP list is barred from practicing or playing for a minimum of six weeks, after which the team has three weeks to evaluate the player and decide whether to restore him to the active roster.
Putting Harrell on the list buys the Packers as much as 2½ months to make a decision on whether he’ll play this season. He won’t count against the 53-man limit, which teams must reach by 3 p.m. Saturday. He’ll become eligible to practice on Oct. 14, two days after the Packers’ sixth game, and could be reinstated as late as Nov. 11, two days after the ninth game.
Without getting into specifics, Thompson said the latest surgery would be a little different than the one Harrell underwent in April and would be done soon.
“The quicker the better, obviously, because then you can kind of start back on the whole recovery thing,” Thompson said.
“It’s too bad. He’s worked very hard, and I know being a high-profile pick, a No. 1 pick, there’s a lot of pressure put on that and expectations of fans. It’s not his fault, and he’s trying his best to get back, and we’re still counting on him to help us this year.”
You can read the entire article here.
When the announcement broke yesterday, several local media outlets started to toss out the word "bust" in reference to Harrell. While it still might be too early to come to that conclusion, pending the results of the surgery and Harrell's ability to rehab, it appears that things are headed in that direction. One can only hope that the young man is able to get healthy, whether or not he plays for the Packers. But we'd also like to see what he could do on the playing field. Particularly given the current depleted situation on the defensive line, a healthy and productive Harrell would be a plus. Wishful thinking? Perhaps. But at least as concerns Harrell in year number two, that's all we've got.
Monday, August 25, 2008
Packers make first roster moves
To get to the the NFL-mandated 75-player limit of this week, the Packers have made 5 roster moves as of today. According to the Packers official website, they released RB DeShawn Wynn -- who started 4 games last season but couldn't seem to stay healthy then or now -- and FB Ryan Powdrell, along with WR Chris Francies and OL Ryan Considine. The Packers also placed last season's first round draft pick, DT Justin Harrell, on the reserve/physically unable to perform list meaning he can't be placed on the active roster during the first six weeks of the season. According to the info on the Packers official site, "After that time, they (the players) are eligible to practice with the club for up to three weeks. If a player is activated from the reserve/PUP list to the active roster, a subsequent roster move must be made to maintain the 53-man active roster limit."
So, what this all seems to indicate is that the running back situation is coming down to Ryan Grant and Brandon Jackson, both locks, and perhaps a three-way battle for two spots between Noah Herron, Vernand Morency and the fast-rising rookie free agent, Kregg Lumpkin. Lumpkin leads the Packers with 17 carries for 87 yards this preseason, while Herron has 10 carries for 52 yards, Jackson nine for 54 and Morency one for 1. The Packers have always liked Herron's reliability, if not durability, and Morency's third down play catching passes out of the backfield. But Lumpkin has been intriguing. Check out this article to find out more about this young man from Georgia.
It also means, speaking of Justin Harrell, that the Ted Thompson doubters/haters out there will continue to fault him for making this pick last season. Certainly, the longer it takes for Harrell to even make it onto the playing field -- if he ever does -- the more he's going to have to show to mitigate the skepticism Packer fans will likely have.
So, what this all seems to indicate is that the running back situation is coming down to Ryan Grant and Brandon Jackson, both locks, and perhaps a three-way battle for two spots between Noah Herron, Vernand Morency and the fast-rising rookie free agent, Kregg Lumpkin. Lumpkin leads the Packers with 17 carries for 87 yards this preseason, while Herron has 10 carries for 52 yards, Jackson nine for 54 and Morency one for 1. The Packers have always liked Herron's reliability, if not durability, and Morency's third down play catching passes out of the backfield. But Lumpkin has been intriguing. Check out this article to find out more about this young man from Georgia.
It also means, speaking of Justin Harrell, that the Ted Thompson doubters/haters out there will continue to fault him for making this pick last season. Certainly, the longer it takes for Harrell to even make it onto the playing field -- if he ever does -- the more he's going to have to show to mitigate the skepticism Packer fans will likely have.
Saturday, August 23, 2008
Pack picks up first preseason win
The Packers beat the Broncos last evening in Denver, 27-24. While it was only a preseason game, players and coaches alike all said it was basically a must-win game, especially after the fall-on-your-face performance at San Fran last weekend. And because the final preseason game will not have the starters playing very long. So, this was basically the starters chance to perform.
The Packers' first team offense, led by QB Aaron Rodgers, came out clicking and scored a TD on an opening 80-yard drive. Rodgers was 4 out of 5 passing, for 69 yards and a TD pass to Donald Driver. His passes looked sharp, and he also looked comfortable rolling out of the pocket and throwing. Playing into the third quarter, Rodgers was 18 for 22, 193 yards, 1 TD passing and 1 TD rushing on a goal line QB sneak. (He had a passer rating of 118.4 for the stat geeks out there.)
Basically, Rodgers and the first team offense were pretty much everything they weren't against the 'Niners. The Pack scored in four out of five possessions under Rodgers, gaining 217 yards and picking up 15 first downs. This was what we were waiting to see.
The game was in doubt, though, until about the last 3 minutes of the game when rookie free agent RB -- and someone who is starting to catch attention -- Kregg Lumpkin took it in for the go-ahead score on fourth down from the 1-yard line. This followed a turnover by the Broncos at their own 10-yard line when DE Jason Hunter hit QB Patrick Ramsey just as he was attempting a pass; his pass was knocked into the air and LB Tracy White was waiting with open arms for the interception.
For as good as the starting offense looked, the same could not be said for the starting defense. In particular, Denver's running game gashed the Pack time after time for 91 yards rushing (a 6.1 yd. per carry average) and 206 total yards. And that was just in the first half. There was also no pass rush to speak of. Again. Like in the prior two games. No sacks and only two knockdowns coming from Aaron Kampman. Granted, the defense was without LB A.J. Hawk. But...c'mon...
Injuries mounting up
In addition to Hawk being out with a chest injury suffered in the last game -- and reportedly not even being day to day but week to week -- several players got injured in last night's game. Rookie RG Josh Sitton and safeties Nick Collins and Atari Bigby were all injured in the first half and didn't return to the game. WR James Jones injured his right knee in the second half and also didn't return, although he didn't seem to be bothered by it later on judging by his sideline behavior.
In addition to these in-game injuries, eight Packers didn't even make the trip: the aforementioned A.J. Hawk, RB Ryan Grant, C Scott Wells, DT Ryan Pickett, S Charlie Peprah, RB DeShawn Wynn, DT Justin Harrell (yeah, shocking, isn't it?) and DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila. As reports note, Grant, Harrell, Pickett and Gbaja-Biamila have not played a down during the exhibition season.
"A Few Seconds of Panic"
No, this is not what you may feel when asked by your doctor to...well, OK, that is what you feel when your doctor asks you to do...anything. But that's beside the point. In this case, the reference is actually the title to a new book by sportswriter Stefan Fatsis. Subtitled “A 5-Foot-8, 170-Pound, 43-Year-old Sportswriter Plays in the NFL," the book chronicles Fatsis' experience as part of the Denver Broncos training camp where he worked out and practiced with the kickers. The NFL, however, wouldn't even let him kick an extra point in an exhibition game. Still, he came away learning a lot about the game and especially how the players view their chosen profession.
Fatsis was interviewed in this week's broadcast of "Only a Game" on NPR. You can read a brief book review here. If you want to listen to the on-air interview, go here and then scroll down to the bottom of the page where you can click on the player for that segment. It's worth a listen.
The Packers' first team offense, led by QB Aaron Rodgers, came out clicking and scored a TD on an opening 80-yard drive. Rodgers was 4 out of 5 passing, for 69 yards and a TD pass to Donald Driver. His passes looked sharp, and he also looked comfortable rolling out of the pocket and throwing. Playing into the third quarter, Rodgers was 18 for 22, 193 yards, 1 TD passing and 1 TD rushing on a goal line QB sneak. (He had a passer rating of 118.4 for the stat geeks out there.)
Basically, Rodgers and the first team offense were pretty much everything they weren't against the 'Niners. The Pack scored in four out of five possessions under Rodgers, gaining 217 yards and picking up 15 first downs. This was what we were waiting to see.
The game was in doubt, though, until about the last 3 minutes of the game when rookie free agent RB -- and someone who is starting to catch attention -- Kregg Lumpkin took it in for the go-ahead score on fourth down from the 1-yard line. This followed a turnover by the Broncos at their own 10-yard line when DE Jason Hunter hit QB Patrick Ramsey just as he was attempting a pass; his pass was knocked into the air and LB Tracy White was waiting with open arms for the interception.
For as good as the starting offense looked, the same could not be said for the starting defense. In particular, Denver's running game gashed the Pack time after time for 91 yards rushing (a 6.1 yd. per carry average) and 206 total yards. And that was just in the first half. There was also no pass rush to speak of. Again. Like in the prior two games. No sacks and only two knockdowns coming from Aaron Kampman. Granted, the defense was without LB A.J. Hawk. But...c'mon...
Injuries mounting up
In addition to Hawk being out with a chest injury suffered in the last game -- and reportedly not even being day to day but week to week -- several players got injured in last night's game. Rookie RG Josh Sitton and safeties Nick Collins and Atari Bigby were all injured in the first half and didn't return to the game. WR James Jones injured his right knee in the second half and also didn't return, although he didn't seem to be bothered by it later on judging by his sideline behavior.
In addition to these in-game injuries, eight Packers didn't even make the trip: the aforementioned A.J. Hawk, RB Ryan Grant, C Scott Wells, DT Ryan Pickett, S Charlie Peprah, RB DeShawn Wynn, DT Justin Harrell (yeah, shocking, isn't it?) and DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila. As reports note, Grant, Harrell, Pickett and Gbaja-Biamila have not played a down during the exhibition season.
"A Few Seconds of Panic"
No, this is not what you may feel when asked by your doctor to...well, OK, that is what you feel when your doctor asks you to do...anything. But that's beside the point. In this case, the reference is actually the title to a new book by sportswriter Stefan Fatsis. Subtitled “A 5-Foot-8, 170-Pound, 43-Year-old Sportswriter Plays in the NFL," the book chronicles Fatsis' experience as part of the Denver Broncos training camp where he worked out and practiced with the kickers. The NFL, however, wouldn't even let him kick an extra point in an exhibition game. Still, he came away learning a lot about the game and especially how the players view their chosen profession.
Fatsis was interviewed in this week's broadcast of "Only a Game" on NPR. You can read a brief book review here. If you want to listen to the on-air interview, go here and then scroll down to the bottom of the page where you can click on the player for that segment. It's worth a listen.
Monday, August 18, 2008
Brett is one happy Jet
Although our focus here at PackerFansUnited.com is and will always be the Packers, of course, we also have to mention from time to time those players who have moved on elsewhere. Particularly when that player happens to be ol' #4.
According to an AP article carried on Yahoo Sports, Brett's one happy camper in Jet-land. Good for him. Nothing but the best to him now and always. And, especially this year, the better he does the better for the Pack in terms of the conditional draft pick we get next season. So...Go Brett Go!!!
He's got his moment now as Broadway Brett. And Jets fans can rejoice and marvel at his performance -- and agonize over some of his bonehead plays, as well -- just as we Packers fans have done for so long. But when Brett goes into the Hall of Fame, it won't be as a Jet. It will be as a Packer. So let's just consider this whole thing as a loan. We'll get him back in the Green 'n' Gold. Looks much better on him anyway.
According to an AP article carried on Yahoo Sports, Brett's one happy camper in Jet-land. Good for him. Nothing but the best to him now and always. And, especially this year, the better he does the better for the Pack in terms of the conditional draft pick we get next season. So...Go Brett Go!!!
He's got his moment now as Broadway Brett. And Jets fans can rejoice and marvel at his performance -- and agonize over some of his bonehead plays, as well -- just as we Packers fans have done for so long. But when Brett goes into the Hall of Fame, it won't be as a Jet. It will be as a Packer. So let's just consider this whole thing as a loan. We'll get him back in the Green 'n' Gold. Looks much better on him anyway.
Sunday, August 17, 2008
Packers flop at San Fran
For as many of the good things that were apparent even in the Packers loss at home last week, there were as many or more bad things that occurred in last night's defeat in San Francisco. It was ugly. The 'Niners whooped the Pack to the tune of 34-6.
The offense looked inept, allowing 6 sacks on the QB, with 4 of those coming against starter Aaron Rodgers. There were 3 turnovers. Receivers dropped passes, including what would have been an easy TD catch by TE Donald Lee following an interception by Charles Woodson deep in the 'Niners red zone. The running game was inept. The Packers didn't even hit 200 yards in total offense.
The defense was sloppy against the run and appeared uninspired. DB Jarrett Bush was -- as last year -- picked on repeatedly, and aided the 'Niners efforts with a critical pass interference play which helped set up a 'Niners TD.
About the only bright spot was a resurrected kicking game by punter Jon Ryan, who averaged about 50 yards per kick on the night. That, and a couple long returns by rookie receiver Jordy Nelson, were about the only highlights. Nelson had a 56-yard kickoff return in the third quarter and a 58-yard return in the fourth.
Coach McCarthy will have a lot of work to do in the next few weeks to pull this team together. It's loaded with talent. But it certainly wasn't on display in the city by the bay.
The offense looked inept, allowing 6 sacks on the QB, with 4 of those coming against starter Aaron Rodgers. There were 3 turnovers. Receivers dropped passes, including what would have been an easy TD catch by TE Donald Lee following an interception by Charles Woodson deep in the 'Niners red zone. The running game was inept. The Packers didn't even hit 200 yards in total offense.
The defense was sloppy against the run and appeared uninspired. DB Jarrett Bush was -- as last year -- picked on repeatedly, and aided the 'Niners efforts with a critical pass interference play which helped set up a 'Niners TD.
About the only bright spot was a resurrected kicking game by punter Jon Ryan, who averaged about 50 yards per kick on the night. That, and a couple long returns by rookie receiver Jordy Nelson, were about the only highlights. Nelson had a 56-yard kickoff return in the third quarter and a 58-yard return in the fourth.
Coach McCarthy will have a lot of work to do in the next few weeks to pull this team together. It's loaded with talent. But it certainly wasn't on display in the city by the bay.
Friday, August 15, 2008
The $20 million deal Favre walked away from
According to a report in today's edition of The Sporting News' online newsletter, the $20 million offer the Packers put on the table for Brett Favre -- prior to his trade to the Jets -- included clothing, a merchandise line, collectibles, and even a blog. There was also a requirement for 10 personal appearances per year by Brett, including two private hunting and golfing trips. In addition, the Packers Pro Shop would become the exclusive distributor for autographed Favre memorabilia. Brett would also autograph 300 items each year for the Packers use.
Many fans and pundits thought Brett was, hmmm, a bit misguided in not taking $20 million for 10 years to basically show up and lend his name to things. But it's never been about the money with Brett, and he seemed to actually be insulted at the time that the Packers were tyring to "buy me off," as he put it, with such an offer.
Well, guess what? The Packers intend to make Brett a similar offer once he officially retires. Again.
As Packers president Mark Murphy stated, "We will want to have a long-term relationship with him. He will always be a Packer. It is similar to Joe Montana. Who remembers that he played with the Chiefs?"
In another article about this report at Yahoo Sports, it states, "In a chat with fans on packers.com last week, Murphy said he intends to reach out to Favre 'at the appropriate time' to finalize a formal relationship. Packers coach Mike McCarthy said last week that he would consider bringing Favre back to work with the team’s quarterbacks in training camp after his playing days are over. 'He’s a Green Bay Packer,' McCarthy said. 'He wants to come back here, he wants to be welcome back here.'"
You can read The Sporting News article here and the Yahoo Sports entry here.
Many fans and pundits thought Brett was, hmmm, a bit misguided in not taking $20 million for 10 years to basically show up and lend his name to things. But it's never been about the money with Brett, and he seemed to actually be insulted at the time that the Packers were tyring to "buy me off," as he put it, with such an offer.
Well, guess what? The Packers intend to make Brett a similar offer once he officially retires. Again.
As Packers president Mark Murphy stated, "We will want to have a long-term relationship with him. He will always be a Packer. It is similar to Joe Montana. Who remembers that he played with the Chiefs?"
In another article about this report at Yahoo Sports, it states, "In a chat with fans on packers.com last week, Murphy said he intends to reach out to Favre 'at the appropriate time' to finalize a formal relationship. Packers coach Mike McCarthy said last week that he would consider bringing Favre back to work with the team’s quarterbacks in training camp after his playing days are over. 'He’s a Green Bay Packer,' McCarthy said. 'He wants to come back here, he wants to be welcome back here.'"
You can read The Sporting News article here and the Yahoo Sports entry here.
Tuesday, August 12, 2008
Packer fans seem to say, "Rodgers looked great"
OK, it was only one game. Actually, only about a quarter or so of one preseason game. But the microscope that new Packers starting QB Aaron Rodgers was under had to be...wait...that metaphor won't work. Never mind. The point is, Rodgers performed well and, according to the poll of the day going on at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel asking fans what their initial impressions were of Rodgers, here are the results at the time of this posting:
What were your impressions of Aaron Rodgers Monday night?
He looked great (51.5%)
He’ll do (32.1%)
Can Brett come back? (16.4%)
Total votes: 4,196
For more on the view of Rodgers and the game, check out this story and this one. You can also find another view of things at the ESPN site. The report, by the way, on the Sports Illustrated site, is the same AP story.
What were your impressions of Aaron Rodgers Monday night?
He looked great (51.5%)
He’ll do (32.1%)
Can Brett come back? (16.4%)
Total votes: 4,196
For more on the view of Rodgers and the game, check out this story and this one. You can also find another view of things at the ESPN site. The report, by the way, on the Sports Illustrated site, is the same AP story.
Monday, August 11, 2008
Rodgers looks good in preseason debut
Aaron Rodgers was cheered to the tune of a standing ovation by Packer fans at Lambeau Field when he took over the huddle tonight. And he rewarded that encouragement by going 9 of 15 for 117 yards in a little more than a quarter of work, with one TD pass and one interception (which, to be fair, slipped through the hands of the receiver). Not bad. Good command.
Backups Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn went 8 for 17 for 70 yards and one interception, and 12 for 21 for 97 yards and one TD respectively.
Final score: Bengals 20, Packers 17.
More tomorrow.
Backups Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn went 8 for 17 for 70 yards and one interception, and 12 for 21 for 97 yards and one TD respectively.
Final score: Bengals 20, Packers 17.
More tomorrow.
It's Mr. Rodgers' neighborhood now
That would be Aaron Rodgers, of course. The new starting QB for the Green Bay Packers. The Favre era has sadly and badly ended for both Brett and the Packers organization. But with every end comes a beginning (is that too New Agey for this discussion?).
The Aaron Rodgers era officially (pre-season version anyway) begins against the Bengals in Green Bay tonight at 7 p.m. Central time. The game will be carried on ESPN as well as local TV and radio channels in the Wisconsin market.
Well, perhaps "era" might be a bit of a stretch. If Rodgers makes it 10 years as the starter -- heck, five years -- that might be considered an "era." Right now, it's game number one, and not even the regular season number one. But it's a start. Of course, Rodgers will only play one or two quarters before giving way to his two rookie backups, who are having a battle of their own in training camp to see who will claim the #2 spot. Initially, it was almost a certainty that would be Brian Brohm. But apparently, seventh-rounder Matt Flynn has begun to tighten the game and give coaches something to think about, according to reports.
Anyway, back to our main man. Check out this story for more.
Go Pack Go!!!
It's not his fault
Regrettably some fans of Brett -- supposedly also Packers fans -- have taken it upon themselves to boo, deride and even curse at Rodgers for no other reason that he happens to be the poor shlub who has to try to replace a legend. Not to mention the fact that he had nothing personally to do with any of the Favre mess. In fact, Rodgers stayed well out of the fray despite what also must have been a bit of a trying time for him personally.
Green Bay Press-Gazette sports reporter Mike Vandermause has written a great column on this sad situation with some fans entitled, "Too bad some fans aren't as classy as Rodgers." All Packer fans should read this. And if you are angry or resentful at Aaron Rodgers just because he's now "the guy," guess what? He is the guy now. He is the guy that will either help guide this team to the playoffs or not. He is the guy that we now must encourage and cheer for. Why boo a player for the mere fact that it's now his time to play? If you are a true Packer fan, you know what? Rodgers was right in that Sports Illustrated story: get on board or shut up. The train has left the station. Deal with it. You can still root for Brett and the Jets. Get an NFL TV package and watch every single Jets game if you must. The better Brett and the Jets do, the higher the draft pick the Packers will get because of it. The Jets will be this writer's second favorite team this season.
But we need to support the Packers. And that means especially supporting Aaron Rodgers. His teammates do. Now we need to as well.
Go Aaron Go!!!
The Aaron Rodgers era officially (pre-season version anyway) begins against the Bengals in Green Bay tonight at 7 p.m. Central time. The game will be carried on ESPN as well as local TV and radio channels in the Wisconsin market.
Well, perhaps "era" might be a bit of a stretch. If Rodgers makes it 10 years as the starter -- heck, five years -- that might be considered an "era." Right now, it's game number one, and not even the regular season number one. But it's a start. Of course, Rodgers will only play one or two quarters before giving way to his two rookie backups, who are having a battle of their own in training camp to see who will claim the #2 spot. Initially, it was almost a certainty that would be Brian Brohm. But apparently, seventh-rounder Matt Flynn has begun to tighten the game and give coaches something to think about, according to reports.
Anyway, back to our main man. Check out this story for more.
Go Pack Go!!!
It's not his fault
Regrettably some fans of Brett -- supposedly also Packers fans -- have taken it upon themselves to boo, deride and even curse at Rodgers for no other reason that he happens to be the poor shlub who has to try to replace a legend. Not to mention the fact that he had nothing personally to do with any of the Favre mess. In fact, Rodgers stayed well out of the fray despite what also must have been a bit of a trying time for him personally.
Green Bay Press-Gazette sports reporter Mike Vandermause has written a great column on this sad situation with some fans entitled, "Too bad some fans aren't as classy as Rodgers." All Packer fans should read this. And if you are angry or resentful at Aaron Rodgers just because he's now "the guy," guess what? He is the guy now. He is the guy that will either help guide this team to the playoffs or not. He is the guy that we now must encourage and cheer for. Why boo a player for the mere fact that it's now his time to play? If you are a true Packer fan, you know what? Rodgers was right in that Sports Illustrated story: get on board or shut up. The train has left the station. Deal with it. You can still root for Brett and the Jets. Get an NFL TV package and watch every single Jets game if you must. The better Brett and the Jets do, the higher the draft pick the Packers will get because of it. The Jets will be this writer's second favorite team this season.
But we need to support the Packers. And that means especially supporting Aaron Rodgers. His teammates do. Now we need to as well.
Go Aaron Go!!!
Sunday, August 10, 2008
What in the world was Thompson thinking?
That's a nice way of putting it, especially for the Ted-bashers out there. What was Packers GM Ted Thompson thinking during the Favre mess, about Aaron Rodgers, and other topics too numerous to mention here? Thankfully, those topics are all covered in this great interview between the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel's main Packers reporter, Bob McGinn, and Thompson.
Check it out and make your own conclusions. Love him, hate him. But I still think you have to admire the guy -- Thompson, that is -- for sticking to his guns. How will it all work out? Everyone, including Ted, is now waiting to see.
Check it out and make your own conclusions. Love him, hate him. But I still think you have to admire the guy -- Thompson, that is -- for sticking to his guns. How will it all work out? Everyone, including Ted, is now waiting to see.
Friday, August 08, 2008
Words from others on the Favre trade
Packer fans, sometimes it helps us gain perspective on a situation by hearing what others on the outside have to say. Sometimes we're too close to things, too emotionally invested on one side or another. That certainly was the case with the whole Favre melodrama. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel compiled a number of comments from other sports pundits around the country regarding this matter. They seem to represent a good cross-section of thought, and might help all of us digest what has just transpired a bit better. You can read that compilation here.
Does Brett have a clue?
One of the side topics which has arisen since this trade was concluded was whether or not Brett really understands that, well, New York ain't Green Bay. We're not talking about the city here, obviously. We're talking about the fans, the franchise, the media, that sort of thing. And, yes, there are stereotypes involved. Sorry. But there are also hard facts. The Jets as a franchise has, how shall we say, not be good for a long, long time. Just remember all those draft day images at Madison Square Garden where Jets fans boo nearly every pick Jets' management makes. Which leads to the fans, of course. Brett, get ready to here the boos every time you throw another bonehead interception. Green Bay fans learned to cringe and then wait for your next brilliant play. We had the long-term perspective. Jets fans are going to expect that team to go to the playoffs now because you're at the helm. In that respect, it's no different than Green Bay. What's different, though, is the reaction you're going to get from the fans, Brett. Surrounded by questionable talent -- certainly far less than what you had to work with in Green Bay -- I and many others wonder how long it will take for you to really wonder why you didn't take that $20 million the Packers offered you to go off and ride your lawn mower. You're going to get some honeymoon time in New York, and be the star of the city for a while in a way that will stroke your ego the way you want. But if things go south for you and the Jets, you can be sure you wish you were back south in Mississippi.
Here's a great essay on this same topic from one of the writers at the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.
The Packers' mea culpa
Packers' management admitted in their press conference yesterday that they made lots of mistakes in handling the Brett Favre situation. For a small town franchise that relies on its history of integrity, etc., not to mention the good will of its fans locally and across the nation and globe, it is sad to see the Packers come through this tarnished in any way. But they have been. Short, medium and long-term you have to wonder how players around the league will now view their own dealings with the Packers in terms of potential signings, trades, etc. People wanted to play with Brett Favre. He's gone. Who or what is now going to be the draw that brings top-level players to the Packers and keeps the winning tradition alive? Winning will do that, of course. And so the pressure is on the starting QB, Aaron Rodgers, to win. Anything short of getting to the playoffs would be seen as a major downfall brought on by Ted Thompson's handling of Brett Favre. Get to the playoffs and fans will be on board with the decision to move on. In this respect, Rodgers will be under as much scrutiny as Brett throughout the season. And you can almost see week-by-week stats reports comparing the performance of the two.
But at least it is instructive that the Packers admitted publicly to their part in helping this fiasco fester. That's something. And maybe it will prevent similar meltdowns in the future. Read more here.
Does Brett have a clue?
One of the side topics which has arisen since this trade was concluded was whether or not Brett really understands that, well, New York ain't Green Bay. We're not talking about the city here, obviously. We're talking about the fans, the franchise, the media, that sort of thing. And, yes, there are stereotypes involved. Sorry. But there are also hard facts. The Jets as a franchise has, how shall we say, not be good for a long, long time. Just remember all those draft day images at Madison Square Garden where Jets fans boo nearly every pick Jets' management makes. Which leads to the fans, of course. Brett, get ready to here the boos every time you throw another bonehead interception. Green Bay fans learned to cringe and then wait for your next brilliant play. We had the long-term perspective. Jets fans are going to expect that team to go to the playoffs now because you're at the helm. In that respect, it's no different than Green Bay. What's different, though, is the reaction you're going to get from the fans, Brett. Surrounded by questionable talent -- certainly far less than what you had to work with in Green Bay -- I and many others wonder how long it will take for you to really wonder why you didn't take that $20 million the Packers offered you to go off and ride your lawn mower. You're going to get some honeymoon time in New York, and be the star of the city for a while in a way that will stroke your ego the way you want. But if things go south for you and the Jets, you can be sure you wish you were back south in Mississippi.
Here's a great essay on this same topic from one of the writers at the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.
The Packers' mea culpa
Packers' management admitted in their press conference yesterday that they made lots of mistakes in handling the Brett Favre situation. For a small town franchise that relies on its history of integrity, etc., not to mention the good will of its fans locally and across the nation and globe, it is sad to see the Packers come through this tarnished in any way. But they have been. Short, medium and long-term you have to wonder how players around the league will now view their own dealings with the Packers in terms of potential signings, trades, etc. People wanted to play with Brett Favre. He's gone. Who or what is now going to be the draw that brings top-level players to the Packers and keeps the winning tradition alive? Winning will do that, of course. And so the pressure is on the starting QB, Aaron Rodgers, to win. Anything short of getting to the playoffs would be seen as a major downfall brought on by Ted Thompson's handling of Brett Favre. Get to the playoffs and fans will be on board with the decision to move on. In this respect, Rodgers will be under as much scrutiny as Brett throughout the season. And you can almost see week-by-week stats reports comparing the performance of the two.
But at least it is instructive that the Packers admitted publicly to their part in helping this fiasco fester. That's something. And maybe it will prevent similar meltdowns in the future. Read more here.
Thursday, August 07, 2008
Packers brass addresses the media on Favre trade
You can find an audio clip of the press conference held today by Packers GM Ted Thompson, head coach Mike McCarthy, and President Mark Murphy discussing the Brett Favre trade here.
If you want to get a minute-by-minute report of what went on and who said what, check out this running commentary from the Green Bay Press-Gazette.
If you want to get a minute-by-minute report of what went on and who said what, check out this running commentary from the Green Bay Press-Gazette.
When Favre's a Jet he's a Jet all the way
Happyguy already broke the news: Brett Favre has officially been traded to the NY Jets.
The greatest QB in the history of the Packers is gone. Aaron Rodgers is the starting QB of the Packers. The king is dead. Long live the king.
OK...sorry for the melodrama. But this is big, isn't it?
While most eyes were fixed on a deal with Tampa Bay, the Jets were always rumored to be part of the possible scenario. And, as reported here yesterday, news reports were indicating that the Jets were offering the Packers a sweeter deal for Favre than were the Buccaneers. And that's ultimately what it came down to.
Here are the details as we have them now. The Packers receive -- no matter what -- a 4th round draft pick for Brett. If he plays at least 50% of the offensive snaps during the season (seems quite reasonable barring injury), the Pack will receive a 3rd round pick. If he plays at least 70 % of the snaps and the Jets make the playoffs, the Pack will get a 2nd round pick. If -- through the sheer majesty and will of our once great ol' #4 -- the Jets somehow make it to the Super Bowl, the Packers will receive a 1st round draft choice. So, Packer fans, you can still root for Brett! Go Brett Go!!!
Now, one of the other negative possibilities the Packers have reportedly addressed in this deal is a back-door trade from the Jets to ViQueens. You know, behind the scenes Minnesota may have been working with the Jets so the Jets could acquire Favre and then trade him to the 'Queens, right? While that still could be a possibility, the Jets would pay a heavy price. One of the poison pill type conditions being reported as part of this deal is that the Jets would have to give the Packers three 1st round draft picks if they trade Brett to the ViQueens. Ouch. For the Jets, anyway.
Brett has nearly gone full circle. The Jets -- and an employee there at the time by the name of Ron Wolf -- wanted to draft Favre in 1991. They didn't have a 1st round pick. Hoped he'd make it to the 2nd round. He did. Only problem was that the Atlanta Falcons selected him one pick before the Jets selection came up. Wolf moved from New York to Green Bay about a year later and swung his first deal for the kid from Mississippi and re-built a dynasty and helped build a football legend in the process.
But that was then. This is now. The Jets finally get Brett 17 years late. And the Packers -- and we, the fans -- got the best of his years.
The drama is over. Now we can get on to talking about what's actually going on: summer camp, preseason games and, quite possibly, who the veteran QB is that the Packers might try to pick up to back up Aaron Rodgers...you know...just in case...
You can read more about this deal, well, probably anywhere and everywhere. But here's a link to get you started.
The Packers Official Statement
A joint statement from Packers President and CEO Mark Murphy and General Manager Ted Thompson read:
“Brett has had a long and storied career in Green Bay, and the Packers owe him a tremendous debt of gratitude for everything he accomplished on the field and for the impact he made in the state. It is with some sadness that we make this announcement, but also with the desire for certainty that will allow us to move the team and organization forward in the most positive way possible.
“We respect Brett’s decision that he could no longer remain here as a Packer. But there were certain things we were not willing to do because they were not in the best interest of the team. We were not going to release him nor trade him to a team within the division. When Brett ultimately decided that he still wanted to play football, but not in Green Bay, we told him that we would work to find the best solution for all parties involved. We wish Brett and his family well.
“We appreciate the tremendous passion shown by our fans. We, like them, always will see Brett Favre as a Green Bay Packer and our respect for him never will change. Moving forward, we are dedicated to delivering a successful 2008 season for all Packers fans.”
Murphy, Thompson and Head Coach Mike McCarthy are expected to address the media today at noon Central Time.
You can watch the press conference live on Packers.com by clicking here. (A live video window will appear on that page approximately 5 minutes before the scheduled live event.)
The greatest QB in the history of the Packers is gone. Aaron Rodgers is the starting QB of the Packers. The king is dead. Long live the king.
OK...sorry for the melodrama. But this is big, isn't it?
While most eyes were fixed on a deal with Tampa Bay, the Jets were always rumored to be part of the possible scenario. And, as reported here yesterday, news reports were indicating that the Jets were offering the Packers a sweeter deal for Favre than were the Buccaneers. And that's ultimately what it came down to.
Here are the details as we have them now. The Packers receive -- no matter what -- a 4th round draft pick for Brett. If he plays at least 50% of the offensive snaps during the season (seems quite reasonable barring injury), the Pack will receive a 3rd round pick. If he plays at least 70 % of the snaps and the Jets make the playoffs, the Pack will get a 2nd round pick. If -- through the sheer majesty and will of our once great ol' #4 -- the Jets somehow make it to the Super Bowl, the Packers will receive a 1st round draft choice. So, Packer fans, you can still root for Brett! Go Brett Go!!!
Now, one of the other negative possibilities the Packers have reportedly addressed in this deal is a back-door trade from the Jets to ViQueens. You know, behind the scenes Minnesota may have been working with the Jets so the Jets could acquire Favre and then trade him to the 'Queens, right? While that still could be a possibility, the Jets would pay a heavy price. One of the poison pill type conditions being reported as part of this deal is that the Jets would have to give the Packers three 1st round draft picks if they trade Brett to the ViQueens. Ouch. For the Jets, anyway.
Brett has nearly gone full circle. The Jets -- and an employee there at the time by the name of Ron Wolf -- wanted to draft Favre in 1991. They didn't have a 1st round pick. Hoped he'd make it to the 2nd round. He did. Only problem was that the Atlanta Falcons selected him one pick before the Jets selection came up. Wolf moved from New York to Green Bay about a year later and swung his first deal for the kid from Mississippi and re-built a dynasty and helped build a football legend in the process.
But that was then. This is now. The Jets finally get Brett 17 years late. And the Packers -- and we, the fans -- got the best of his years.
The drama is over. Now we can get on to talking about what's actually going on: summer camp, preseason games and, quite possibly, who the veteran QB is that the Packers might try to pick up to back up Aaron Rodgers...you know...just in case...
You can read more about this deal, well, probably anywhere and everywhere. But here's a link to get you started.
The Packers Official Statement
A joint statement from Packers President and CEO Mark Murphy and General Manager Ted Thompson read:
“Brett has had a long and storied career in Green Bay, and the Packers owe him a tremendous debt of gratitude for everything he accomplished on the field and for the impact he made in the state. It is with some sadness that we make this announcement, but also with the desire for certainty that will allow us to move the team and organization forward in the most positive way possible.
“We respect Brett’s decision that he could no longer remain here as a Packer. But there were certain things we were not willing to do because they were not in the best interest of the team. We were not going to release him nor trade him to a team within the division. When Brett ultimately decided that he still wanted to play football, but not in Green Bay, we told him that we would work to find the best solution for all parties involved. We wish Brett and his family well.
“We appreciate the tremendous passion shown by our fans. We, like them, always will see Brett Favre as a Green Bay Packer and our respect for him never will change. Moving forward, we are dedicated to delivering a successful 2008 season for all Packers fans.”
Murphy, Thompson and Head Coach Mike McCarthy are expected to address the media today at noon Central Time.
You can watch the press conference live on Packers.com by clicking here. (A live video window will appear on that page approximately 5 minutes before the scheduled live event.)
Favre traded to Jets
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3522971
The Brett Favre era in Green Bay officially came to an end late Wednesday night as the longtime Packers star quarterback was traded to the New York Jets, the Packers announced.
The exact compensation wasn't immediately available, but it is believed to be a fourth-round draft pick that increases in value depending upon how the Jets perform during the 2008 season.
The Brett Favre era in Green Bay officially came to an end late Wednesday night as the longtime Packers star quarterback was traded to the New York Jets, the Packers announced.
The exact compensation wasn't immediately available, but it is believed to be a fourth-round draft pick that increases in value depending upon how the Jets perform during the 2008 season.
Wednesday, August 06, 2008
Favre has left the building
Actually, Brett, his wife Deanna, and agent James "Bus" Cook have all left Green Bay. And they likely won't be back for a looooooooong time.
They all hopped on Brett's private plane at about 12:30 p.m. headed back to Hattiesburg to apparently wait out the imminent trade between the Packers and either Tampa Bay or the New York Jets.
Reports early this morning indicated that Brett and Deanna both were on board with a deal with Tampa, although the Buccaneers' owner refuted a story in the local press there saying that a deal had been worked out. Brett would prefer to go to Tampa because he knows head coach Jon Gruden and could get up to speed on the offensive system quickly. Reports also indicated, however, that the Jets were apparently offering the Packers a sweeter deal than the Bucs for Brett, which could evolve into yet another circus if Brett doesn't want to play there. Oh boy.
A deal of some kind seems to be likely within the next 24 hours. But this story has had so many twists and turns...well...you know...
They all hopped on Brett's private plane at about 12:30 p.m. headed back to Hattiesburg to apparently wait out the imminent trade between the Packers and either Tampa Bay or the New York Jets.
Reports early this morning indicated that Brett and Deanna both were on board with a deal with Tampa, although the Buccaneers' owner refuted a story in the local press there saying that a deal had been worked out. Brett would prefer to go to Tampa because he knows head coach Jon Gruden and could get up to speed on the offensive system quickly. Reports also indicated, however, that the Jets were apparently offering the Packers a sweeter deal than the Bucs for Brett, which could evolve into yet another circus if Brett doesn't want to play there. Oh boy.
A deal of some kind seems to be likely within the next 24 hours. But this story has had so many twists and turns...well...you know...
Tuesday, August 05, 2008
Favre: from Green Bay to Tampa Bay???
Late reports coming out of Green Bay are that disgruntled QB Brett Favre is now willing to consider being traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. In fact, talks between his agent and the Bucs are apparently heating up.
Read it and weep, Packer fans. Brett's going to be hitting the road soon. And Tampa Bay may be the place. Hey, at least it ain't the ViQueens.
Read it and weep, Packer fans. Brett's going to be hitting the road soon. And Tampa Bay may be the place. Hey, at least it ain't the ViQueens.
McCarthy: Brett "not in right mindset" to play for Packers
According to Packers head coach Mike McCarthy's press conference, going on at the time of this writing, Brett Favre said, because of all the things that have happened, he's "not in the right mindset" to play for the Green Bay Packers any further. According to McCarthy, that's where their five-plus hour conversation last night ended.
McCarthy said he wanted to know whether Brett was committed to playing for the Packers. And based on their conversation, he said that was no longer the case.
More later.
You can catch the streaming press conference (while live) here.
McCarthy said he wanted to know whether Brett was committed to playing for the Packers. And based on their conversation, he said that was no longer the case.
More later.
You can catch the streaming press conference (while live) here.
After 5 hour meeting, Favre wants out
Packers head coach Mike McCarthy was supposed to address the media last evening at about 8:15 after meeting with Brett Favre for an hour or two beforehand. But that didn't happen. The meeting lasted until after 11 p.m., with Brett leaving the building at about 11:30 p.m. according to reports. What everyone wants to know is what could be the topic or topics of discussion for 5 hours? As it stands now, only McCarthy and Brett know.
Brett passed his required physical yesterday and was supposed to be on the practice field today at 2 p.m. That didn't happen. Brett actually left the Packer facilities for some meetings elsewhere with Packers GM Ted Thompson, according to ESPN. Those meetings are presumably to discuss trade possibilities. Judging from what Brett is reported to have told ESPN's Chris Mortenson, he said he is at a "stalemate" with the Packers and the best thing, he said, was for them to part ways.
So, the brief joy some fans experienced when Brett returned to Green Bay appears to be short-lived. Whether Brett ever steps on the practice field again in Green Bay seems to now even be in doubt. Brett wants out. The Packers, it certainly appears, are also ready to move on. The best resolution, in the opinion of Brett, would be for an outright release. That would be the worst scenario for the Packers as then he would likely sign with the ViQueens and revel in his new-found enthusiasm to "stick it" to the Packers, as he has reportedly said. From the Packers perspective, they would be more than happy to do a trade, but not within the division. Problem is, they have had no takers for Favre's services. And why, at this point, would any team trade for Brett, other than the 'Queens, perhaps? But even they know the Packers are stuck. If Brett waits it out long enough, and the Packers get fed up enough, they could in the end just release him. And that would absolutely be one of the most boneheaded moves in NFL history.
Instead, the Packers hold his rights. If they can work a trade, at this point, it might be best for all concerned as Brett clearly has no interest at this point in playing for the Pack. He is reported to have referred to the $20 million personal services agreement that the Packers offered him as an attempt to buy him off. You know what, Brett? There's a lot of folks in this country and world who'd be more than happy to be bought off for even a fraction of that kind of coin.
But you are who you are and it isn't about the money. We get it. Your pride has been offended. And you blame the Packers for that. One day, when the heat of this moment has long passed, and you look in the mirror, perhaps you will begin to think about how you waffled for the last three or four years about whether you wanted to play or not. You put the Packers organization and fans through an ongoing soap opera. You tarnished your image among the best and most loyal fan base in pro football. You looked as much the fool in real life over this situation as you did the hero in your best playing days.
There is no joy in Mudville. Nor in Green Bay. And there will come a day when Brett -- sitting back in Kiln or Hattiesburg or wherever -- will regret the way he's going out. Packer fans are generally very forgiving of their players, true. But we also have long memories. Especially when the final bite is a bad-tasting one.
Check out more here and here.
Brett passed his required physical yesterday and was supposed to be on the practice field today at 2 p.m. That didn't happen. Brett actually left the Packer facilities for some meetings elsewhere with Packers GM Ted Thompson, according to ESPN. Those meetings are presumably to discuss trade possibilities. Judging from what Brett is reported to have told ESPN's Chris Mortenson, he said he is at a "stalemate" with the Packers and the best thing, he said, was for them to part ways.
So, the brief joy some fans experienced when Brett returned to Green Bay appears to be short-lived. Whether Brett ever steps on the practice field again in Green Bay seems to now even be in doubt. Brett wants out. The Packers, it certainly appears, are also ready to move on. The best resolution, in the opinion of Brett, would be for an outright release. That would be the worst scenario for the Packers as then he would likely sign with the ViQueens and revel in his new-found enthusiasm to "stick it" to the Packers, as he has reportedly said. From the Packers perspective, they would be more than happy to do a trade, but not within the division. Problem is, they have had no takers for Favre's services. And why, at this point, would any team trade for Brett, other than the 'Queens, perhaps? But even they know the Packers are stuck. If Brett waits it out long enough, and the Packers get fed up enough, they could in the end just release him. And that would absolutely be one of the most boneheaded moves in NFL history.
Instead, the Packers hold his rights. If they can work a trade, at this point, it might be best for all concerned as Brett clearly has no interest at this point in playing for the Pack. He is reported to have referred to the $20 million personal services agreement that the Packers offered him as an attempt to buy him off. You know what, Brett? There's a lot of folks in this country and world who'd be more than happy to be bought off for even a fraction of that kind of coin.
But you are who you are and it isn't about the money. We get it. Your pride has been offended. And you blame the Packers for that. One day, when the heat of this moment has long passed, and you look in the mirror, perhaps you will begin to think about how you waffled for the last three or four years about whether you wanted to play or not. You put the Packers organization and fans through an ongoing soap opera. You tarnished your image among the best and most loyal fan base in pro football. You looked as much the fool in real life over this situation as you did the hero in your best playing days.
There is no joy in Mudville. Nor in Green Bay. And there will come a day when Brett -- sitting back in Kiln or Hattiesburg or wherever -- will regret the way he's going out. Packer fans are generally very forgiving of their players, true. But we also have long memories. Especially when the final bite is a bad-tasting one.
Check out more here and here.
Sunday, August 03, 2008
Breaking News: Favre back with the Pack
Apparently spurred by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell's nudge to get things settled, Brett Favre and the Packers have done so. For now, anyway. Brett and wife Deanna landed in Green Bay this evening, which coincidentally was also the night of the Packers Family Night scrimmage. News of Favre's return broke about the same time as the game. Fans queried by local sports reporters seemed to have a mixed reaction: some were ecstatic that Brett was back, while others felt that this was all unfair to Aaron Rodgers. Why? Because the Packers have reportedly agreed to let Brett compete for the starting QB job (did you ever really expect in your wildest dreams to hear such an expression?). You probably don't have to speculate too much on how that could turn out. And that's without even tossing in the media circus about to ensue on Tuesday when Brett is anticipated to step onto the practice field for the first time.
But let's not forget that Rodgers isn't going to roll over just because Brett's back in town. In fact, when informed of the Favre arrangement, he said, "It's going to be a dogfight." That's what you'd expect. But given Rodgers' somewhat so-so performance in tonight's scrimmage, it may be easier said then done. Especially when the other dog in the fight has been the top dog for so long.
The Packers released this statement from president Mark Murphy: "Sixteen years after Brett Favre came to the Packers, he is returning for a seventeenth season. He has had a great career with our organization and although we built this year around the assumption that Brett meant what he said about retiring, Brett is coming back. We will welcome him back and turn this situation to our advantage."
Of course, now that Brett is back on the roster, pending the outcome of his physical Monday, there could still be a trade. So it's still not a given that ol' #4 will be the starting QB for the Packers come the first regular season game, regardless of how the open competition turns out. In fact, one report says that a trade with the ViQueens is still a possibility. Wow. What a revoltin' development that would be!
We'll worry about that later. For now...welcome back, Brett. And good luck, Aaron. May the best QB win!
But let's not forget that Rodgers isn't going to roll over just because Brett's back in town. In fact, when informed of the Favre arrangement, he said, "It's going to be a dogfight." That's what you'd expect. But given Rodgers' somewhat so-so performance in tonight's scrimmage, it may be easier said then done. Especially when the other dog in the fight has been the top dog for so long.
The Packers released this statement from president Mark Murphy: "Sixteen years after Brett Favre came to the Packers, he is returning for a seventeenth season. He has had a great career with our organization and although we built this year around the assumption that Brett meant what he said about retiring, Brett is coming back. We will welcome him back and turn this situation to our advantage."
Of course, now that Brett is back on the roster, pending the outcome of his physical Monday, there could still be a trade. So it's still not a given that ol' #4 will be the starting QB for the Packers come the first regular season game, regardless of how the open competition turns out. In fact, one report says that a trade with the ViQueens is still a possibility. Wow. What a revoltin' development that would be!
We'll worry about that later. For now...welcome back, Brett. And good luck, Aaron. May the best QB win!
Goodell to Favre and Pack: settle it
Over the course of this weekend -- Hall of Fame weekend in Canton, OH -- NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell told reporters, essentially, that if the Packers and Brett Favre don't come to some resolution to "this situation" (not what Goodell called it, but we might as well) he would reinstate Favre Monday and essentially force both parties to make decisions by effectively returning Favre to the Packers roster. At that point, Favre would report to camp, be traded, or decide to walk off with the $20 million deal the Packers have offered him to make personal appearances, etc. A deal which also does not preclude him from returning to the playing field, either in Green Bay or elsewhere...although the Packers would certainly be hoping the $20 million would keep Brett loyal to the Pack and dissuade him from going elsewhere.
So, Packer fans, seems like we will finally see the next, albeit perhaps not final, step in this saga sometime tomorrow at the latest. Stay tuned.
Also, it's interesting to note that even the Green Bay Catholic Archdiocesan newspaper has weighed on this matter. Naturally, the editorial has some religious overtones to it. But hey, it's Sunday, so what the heck. Check it out here if you are so inclined.
Grant signs 4-year $30 million deal
The Packers helped bring RB Ryan Grant's brief holdout to an end by getting him to agree to a four-year $30 million deal. Let's just hope last year's one-year wonder is able to continue that same kind of performance for at least the course of the contract. We're all well aware of players who, after signing that fat contract, never again match the performance of the year that made that money possible.
So, Packer fans, seems like we will finally see the next, albeit perhaps not final, step in this saga sometime tomorrow at the latest. Stay tuned.
Also, it's interesting to note that even the Green Bay Catholic Archdiocesan newspaper has weighed on this matter. Naturally, the editorial has some religious overtones to it. But hey, it's Sunday, so what the heck. Check it out here if you are so inclined.
Grant signs 4-year $30 million deal
The Packers helped bring RB Ryan Grant's brief holdout to an end by getting him to agree to a four-year $30 million deal. Let's just hope last year's one-year wonder is able to continue that same kind of performance for at least the course of the contract. We're all well aware of players who, after signing that fat contract, never again match the performance of the year that made that money possible.
Friday, August 01, 2008
$20 million offer to Favre from Pack...but not to play
As news reports have been circulating for the last day or so, the Packers have apparently offered Brett Favre $20 over 10 years to essentially make appearances at various public events and participate in marketing efforts for the Packers, whether he plays any more football or not. ESPN is reporting that he is seriously thinking about this offer. In a text message sent to one of ESPN's reporters Brett said, "There isn't a perfect solution to this, but Mark Murphy is at least trying. We know what they want and where I stand. His solution, although awkward and unsettling for most, may be the best in the end."
There were high expectations yesterday that Brett would be on a plane out of Hattiesburg last evening to come to Green Bay. That didn't happen. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has yet to act on Brett's reinstatement request, apparently trying to allow the two sides time to come to a resolution before triggering a roster move through the reinstatement, as this statement from the league office indicated: "The Packers and Brett Favre are continuing their discussions. The commissioner preferred to let those discussions continue rather than act on the reinstatement petition today."
You really do have to wonder about Brett's commitment, though. He's wavered on retirement for the last three or four seasons. And then yesterday Brett's agent released a statement saying this: "If he was given his release, there's no guarantee he'd go anywhere to play. However, he'd have the freedom to choose if he should decide to play."
Reports are circulating today that Brett has now sent out a message to the Packers saying that he wants to return to play for the Packers but if that's not possible to trade him so he can play against the Packers. Ouch.
So...does he want to play or doesn't he? Bottom line is still that Brett doesn't know what he wants to do. And that's the source of this circus.
You can read more about these latest happenings here.
There were high expectations yesterday that Brett would be on a plane out of Hattiesburg last evening to come to Green Bay. That didn't happen. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has yet to act on Brett's reinstatement request, apparently trying to allow the two sides time to come to a resolution before triggering a roster move through the reinstatement, as this statement from the league office indicated: "The Packers and Brett Favre are continuing their discussions. The commissioner preferred to let those discussions continue rather than act on the reinstatement petition today."
You really do have to wonder about Brett's commitment, though. He's wavered on retirement for the last three or four seasons. And then yesterday Brett's agent released a statement saying this: "If he was given his release, there's no guarantee he'd go anywhere to play. However, he'd have the freedom to choose if he should decide to play."
Reports are circulating today that Brett has now sent out a message to the Packers saying that he wants to return to play for the Packers but if that's not possible to trade him so he can play against the Packers. Ouch.
So...does he want to play or doesn't he? Bottom line is still that Brett doesn't know what he wants to do. And that's the source of this circus.
You can read more about these latest happenings here.
Tuesday, July 29, 2008
Brett to come back to Pack...at least for a while
It's official: Brett Favre has finally submitted his reinstatement papers to the NFL Commissioner's office. According to a report in the Green Bay Press-Gazette, "The Packers issued this one-sentence statement shortly before 5:30 p.m.: 'We have been advised that a letter of reinstatement has been received by the league office. As with all matters like these, any questions should be referred to the commissioner’s office.'" That means Brett will likely be at Packers training circus, er, camp before the end of the week. See more here.
On other fronts related to Brett, it appears that there are not many eager takers for his services at this point, at least among those teams to which the Packers would consider trading Brett. More on that story here.
And how is the current starting QB, Aaron Rodgers, handling things? Check out this story and this one for more on that angle.
This should be REAL interesting, kids. The Hall of Fame QB coming into camp as the designated -- and disgruntled -- back up. Wow.
On other fronts related to Brett, it appears that there are not many eager takers for his services at this point, at least among those teams to which the Packers would consider trading Brett. More on that story here.
And how is the current starting QB, Aaron Rodgers, handling things? Check out this story and this one for more on that angle.
This should be REAL interesting, kids. The Hall of Fame QB coming into camp as the designated -- and disgruntled -- back up. Wow.
Sunday, July 27, 2008
Favre to Packers: trade me
According to a report just breaking in the Green Bay Press-Gazette, "The rift between quarterback Brett Favre and the Green Bay Packers is escalating, and he’s giving the team until Tuesday or Wednesday to work out a trade or he will report to their training camp." Further, a "source confirmed the Internet reports that Favre asked the Packers on Saturday whether he could come in and compete for his starting job against Aaron Rodgers but was rebuffed."
And while this poster and others have continually pointed out that Brett had yet to officially ask for his reinstatement through the NFL Commissioner, "Favre also said he’s signed his letter of request for reinstatement but has not yet faxed it to the NFL offices." C'mon, Brett, pull the trigger and let's really ramp up this circus, shall we?
Folks, as sad as it is to really say it, Brett will never be in a Packers uniform again unless it's just part of the process to trade him to another team. Reports are that both the NY Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers have been given permission by the Packers to talk with Brett, although it's not clear whether the teams or Brett are really interested in each other.
So, if Brett requests reinstatement but neither he nor the Packers can agree on a team to send him to, then what?
It is an absolute nightmare. And making the Pack a bit of a laughing stock in some circles. After all, when even prop comic extraordinaire, Carrot Top, makes a tissue dispenser out of a Packers helmet for crying Packer fans as one of his new bits...you know the apocalypse is upon us. No, wait, that would be if Brett wound up going to Da Bearz or ViQueens.
But as the Packers get ready to start training camp tomorrow, the only things that are clear are these two: Aaron Rodgers is the new starting QB, and Brett Favre is done in the Green 'n' Gold.
And, oh yeah, even our breakout runner of last year, Ryan Grant, won't report to camp just yet because he's not happy with the contract offer being tossed his way.
Welcome back to summer training camp, folks!
You can find the entire Press-Gazette article here.
And while this poster and others have continually pointed out that Brett had yet to officially ask for his reinstatement through the NFL Commissioner, "Favre also said he’s signed his letter of request for reinstatement but has not yet faxed it to the NFL offices." C'mon, Brett, pull the trigger and let's really ramp up this circus, shall we?
Folks, as sad as it is to really say it, Brett will never be in a Packers uniform again unless it's just part of the process to trade him to another team. Reports are that both the NY Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers have been given permission by the Packers to talk with Brett, although it's not clear whether the teams or Brett are really interested in each other.
So, if Brett requests reinstatement but neither he nor the Packers can agree on a team to send him to, then what?
It is an absolute nightmare. And making the Pack a bit of a laughing stock in some circles. After all, when even prop comic extraordinaire, Carrot Top, makes a tissue dispenser out of a Packers helmet for crying Packer fans as one of his new bits...you know the apocalypse is upon us. No, wait, that would be if Brett wound up going to Da Bearz or ViQueens.
But as the Packers get ready to start training camp tomorrow, the only things that are clear are these two: Aaron Rodgers is the new starting QB, and Brett Favre is done in the Green 'n' Gold.
And, oh yeah, even our breakout runner of last year, Ryan Grant, won't report to camp just yet because he's not happy with the contract offer being tossed his way.
Welcome back to summer training camp, folks!
You can find the entire Press-Gazette article here.
Friday, July 25, 2008
Latest report: Favre to report to training camp
Hold on to your seats, Packers fans. According to the NFL Network and an NFL source, Brett has apparently told the Packers he intends to come to training camp this week. What a development. Question is: good, bad or...?
But does this mean Brett accepts his new backup role? Or does it mean that it's a negotiating tactic for a trade? Stay tuned, folks!
Read more about this latest story here.
But does this mean Brett accepts his new backup role? Or does it mean that it's a negotiating tactic for a trade? Stay tuned, folks!
Read more about this latest story here.
Thursday, July 24, 2008
Packers shareholders split
Packers shareholders split about Brett Favre and Ted Thompson had their say today after the Packers' annual shareholders meeting at Lambeau Field. To get a feel for what went on, check out this article from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel and this one from the Green Bay Press-Gazette.
Wednesday, July 23, 2008
It's a sad, sad time in Packerland
Can the situation with Brett Favre become any worse at this point? Really. Now the Packers are supposedly contacting "everybody" -- at the encouragement of the NFL Commissioner -- to see what interest there may be out there for Brett. See more here.
Tuesday, July 22, 2008
Favre to 'Skins?
This is the scenario Peter King sets up in his latest entry at SI.com, especially after they picked up Jason Taylor from the Dolphins. The Redskins have been one of the teams mentioned from the get-go in a possible Favre unretirement-trade scenario. Who'da thunk it? Lombardi to the Redskins. Favre to the Redskins. Anyway...check out King's article here.
But then there's this bit from profootballtalk.com in which the Packers reportedly gave Brett a list of three teams to which they’d attempt to trade him and Brett refused each one. Does that mean he stays retired. Only Brett knows. Maybe. Mike Florio at profootballtalk.com thinks Brett's done. I wouldn't bet on it.
And if you want to read a real turnabout article on one reporter's change of view, you have to check out this article on CBSSportsline by Gregg Doyel. It really cuts to the chase of how Brett's image has suffered -- at least in some circles -- by the events of the last week or so.
But then there's this bit from profootballtalk.com in which the Packers reportedly gave Brett a list of three teams to which they’d attempt to trade him and Brett refused each one. Does that mean he stays retired. Only Brett knows. Maybe. Mike Florio at profootballtalk.com thinks Brett's done. I wouldn't bet on it.
And if you want to read a real turnabout article on one reporter's change of view, you have to check out this article on CBSSportsline by Gregg Doyel. It really cuts to the chase of how Brett's image has suffered -- at least in some circles -- by the events of the last week or so.
Sunday, July 20, 2008
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Notice
It's possible that this writer may be offline for a week or so. Or maybe not. But just in case there's a bit of a lag in posts from yours truly, you'll know why. I hope it's a quiet week in Packerland. But somehow, given present circumstances, probably not. We might have some catching up to do later on. In the meantime, enjoy your summer!
New Poll
We've added a new poll asking how you think the current Favre-Packers standoff will wind up. You'll find it in the usual place in the righthand column under our PackerFansUnited.com shop. The poll be open through noon on Tuesday, July 29. Tell us -- and other Packer fans -- how you think things will turn out.
Notice
It's possible that this writer may be offline for a week or so. Or maybe not. But just in case there's a bit of a lag in posts from yours truly, you'll know why. I hope it's a quiet week in Packerland. But somehow, given present circumstances, probably not. We might have some catching up to do later on. In the meantime, enjoy your summer!
New Poll
We've added a new poll asking how you think the current Favre-Packers standoff will wind up. You'll find it in the usual place in the righthand column under our PackerFansUnited.com shop. The poll be open through noon on Tuesday, July 29. Tell us -- and other Packer fans -- how you think things will turn out.
Favre salutes his old center, and gets some fan love, too
Brett Favre presented his old center, Frank Winters, for induction into the Packers Hall of Fame at last night's banquet, held in the Lambeau Field Atrium. As a result of the Packers laying down some ground rules for the media -- which, amazingly, seem to have been respected -- and Brett focusing on Winters and the two other inductees, Gilbert Brown and Al Treml, things went off seemingly without a hitch.
According to one report, "When Favre and Winters entered the Lambeau Field Atrium, they were met with the loudest and lengthiest of cheers from the packed, sold-out crowd. Not a single jeer or boo was heard."
It's still unclear, though, whether there was any chit-chat between Brett and Ted Thompson despite their sitting only two tables away from one another.
Brett also received the 2007 MillerCoors (new merger for those not keeping up on the beer biz) MVP award for setting NFL records in touchdowns, passing yards, completions and attempts. Reports say "he received even more cheers and then an enthusiastic standing ovation."
Another report stated that "Favre made a point of embracing the Packers’ storied past. 'That’s the thing with Green Bay, it’s a special place,' said Favre. 'There’s a lot of tradition. You think of the Packers, you think of all these great names. To be a part of that … is a special thing.' From a public relations standpoint, Favre was on his game. He even wore a sport coat for the occasion, so you knew this was no ordinary night."
Brett in a sport coat, sans tie, but still...you have to wonder whether his feelings will change if there's no resolution to the standoff. It seems clear, though, for now, that Brett is able to separate his feelings for the Packers and the fans from his feelings for GM Ted Thompson. So if nothing else, we can hold on to that. For now.
You can read a couple accounts of last night's event -- including an intersting comment from Gilbert Brown -- here and here.
According to one report, "When Favre and Winters entered the Lambeau Field Atrium, they were met with the loudest and lengthiest of cheers from the packed, sold-out crowd. Not a single jeer or boo was heard."
It's still unclear, though, whether there was any chit-chat between Brett and Ted Thompson despite their sitting only two tables away from one another.
Brett also received the 2007 MillerCoors (new merger for those not keeping up on the beer biz) MVP award for setting NFL records in touchdowns, passing yards, completions and attempts. Reports say "he received even more cheers and then an enthusiastic standing ovation."
Another report stated that "Favre made a point of embracing the Packers’ storied past. 'That’s the thing with Green Bay, it’s a special place,' said Favre. 'There’s a lot of tradition. You think of the Packers, you think of all these great names. To be a part of that … is a special thing.' From a public relations standpoint, Favre was on his game. He even wore a sport coat for the occasion, so you knew this was no ordinary night."
Brett in a sport coat, sans tie, but still...you have to wonder whether his feelings will change if there's no resolution to the standoff. It seems clear, though, for now, that Brett is able to separate his feelings for the Packers and the fans from his feelings for GM Ted Thompson. So if nothing else, we can hold on to that. For now.
You can read a couple accounts of last night's event -- including an intersting comment from Gilbert Brown -- here and here.
Saturday, July 19, 2008
Favre lands in Green Bay
Brett Favre's private jet indeed landed at Austin Straubel Field in Green Bay this afternoon at about 3:30. From there, it was off to Lambeau to talk to the media. No, not about...well, you know. It was to say a few words to the media about the fellow he's going to be presenting at tonight's Packers Hall of Fame induction banquet, Frank Winters.
So, how did all this -- and words from the other presenters -- work out? See for yourself in almost a minute-by-minute report here.
So, how did all this -- and words from the other presenters -- work out? See for yourself in almost a minute-by-minute report here.
Favre expected to present Winters tonight
As previously mentioned here, and plenty of other places, ol' #4 is supposed to be in Green Bay to present his former center, Frank Winters, for induction into the Packers Hall of Fame tonight. (Can you say "awkward"?) All indications are that he's still set to do so, with wife, Deanna, also expected to attend. Other inductees are Gilbert Brown and Al Treml.
Presenters also typically meet with the media the afternoon prior to the evening's induction banquet. Will Brett show up for that part of the weekend? Just in case he does, the Packers have already made it clear to the media who might attend (do you think there might be just a few extra reporters there?) that Favre will talk only about what he will say about Winters.
Let's see how that works out, shall we?
Tony Dungy's view
If you want to hear what one of the more articulate members of the NFL coaching fraternity has to say about the Favre-Packers situation, Indianapolis head coach Tony Dungy made a few comments on a Chicago sports station yesterday. Interesting take on things from a former player and one of the more thought-full coaches in the league. Go here to check to check it out.
PackerFansUnited.com Favre poll results
The poll that we've been running for the last 10 days or so has now closed. Approximately 61% of those responding indicated that they felt the Packers should take Brett back and make him the starter; 23% percent said the Packers should try to talk him into staying retired; and 15% said to trade him to a team outside the division (rounding means the total does not equal 100%). Interesting that it seems like a lot of the media pundits in the last few days seem to be moving to the notion that if Brett asks for reinstatement the Packers will trade him. While still acknowledging the argument of how Brett has earned the right to decide where he wants to go, it's also obvious the Packers still own his rights and would not let him depart without getting something in return for him. That's business. Which is the part of the equation the players always bring up in asserting their supposed rights. What's a fair argument on their side is also then a fair argument on the part of management: it's a business. It's just sad -- as Tony Dungy said (see above) -- that Brett decided to play this out in public. That changes everything...and not for the better.
Presenters also typically meet with the media the afternoon prior to the evening's induction banquet. Will Brett show up for that part of the weekend? Just in case he does, the Packers have already made it clear to the media who might attend (do you think there might be just a few extra reporters there?) that Favre will talk only about what he will say about Winters.
Let's see how that works out, shall we?
Tony Dungy's view
If you want to hear what one of the more articulate members of the NFL coaching fraternity has to say about the Favre-Packers situation, Indianapolis head coach Tony Dungy made a few comments on a Chicago sports station yesterday. Interesting take on things from a former player and one of the more thought-full coaches in the league. Go here to check to check it out.
PackerFansUnited.com Favre poll results
The poll that we've been running for the last 10 days or so has now closed. Approximately 61% of those responding indicated that they felt the Packers should take Brett back and make him the starter; 23% percent said the Packers should try to talk him into staying retired; and 15% said to trade him to a team outside the division (rounding means the total does not equal 100%). Interesting that it seems like a lot of the media pundits in the last few days seem to be moving to the notion that if Brett asks for reinstatement the Packers will trade him. While still acknowledging the argument of how Brett has earned the right to decide where he wants to go, it's also obvious the Packers still own his rights and would not let him depart without getting something in return for him. That's business. Which is the part of the equation the players always bring up in asserting their supposed rights. What's a fair argument on their side is also then a fair argument on the part of management: it's a business. It's just sad -- as Tony Dungy said (see above) -- that Brett decided to play this out in public. That changes everything...and not for the better.
Friday, July 18, 2008
Surely, the Apocalypse is now upon us
What are the signs of the Apocalypse? You know: global warming, severe storms, earthquakes, tidal waves, gas at $4 a gallon, reality TV shows...the list goes on and on. A more recent item added to this list is the possibility of Brett Favre becoming a ViQueen.
But perhaps the topper is this: Brett Favre as a (shudder) Chicago Bear. Now, before you go sticking your head in the nearest oven (I tried it and...well...it's not all it's cracked up to be...especially if you just have an electric oven), be aware that this is the opinion of a Chicago Tribune columnist. So take it for what that's worth. It's Chicago ("Vote early, vote often"). And it's Da Bearz ("Our Motto: Mediocrity & Failure through Frugality").
One thing I think Packer fans should count on, particularly after Brett's outspokenness, shall we say, this week, is that the Packers will NEVER allow him to go to either the ViQueens or Da Bearz. Unless he decides to unretire at age, oh, 90 perhaps. Which, with Brett, seemingly could be a possibility, who knows?
But if you care to indulge a Chicago columnist's desire to fill space, you can read the story here.
Brett, regrettably for all parties involve, may play somewhere other than the hallowed ground of Lambeau Field this season. But the only way that will be in Minnesota or Chicago is still as a member of a visiting team.
But perhaps the topper is this: Brett Favre as a (shudder) Chicago Bear. Now, before you go sticking your head in the nearest oven (I tried it and...well...it's not all it's cracked up to be...especially if you just have an electric oven), be aware that this is the opinion of a Chicago Tribune columnist. So take it for what that's worth. It's Chicago ("Vote early, vote often"). And it's Da Bearz ("Our Motto: Mediocrity & Failure through Frugality").
One thing I think Packer fans should count on, particularly after Brett's outspokenness, shall we say, this week, is that the Packers will NEVER allow him to go to either the ViQueens or Da Bearz. Unless he decides to unretire at age, oh, 90 perhaps. Which, with Brett, seemingly could be a possibility, who knows?
But if you care to indulge a Chicago columnist's desire to fill space, you can read the story here.
Brett, regrettably for all parties involve, may play somewhere other than the hallowed ground of Lambeau Field this season. But the only way that will be in Minnesota or Chicago is still as a member of a visiting team.
Wednesday, July 16, 2008
Brett Speaks: Part Three...Plus Possible ViQueens Tampering?
Who knew there was yet a Part 3 to Brett's interview with Greta Van Susteren? There is. Aired tonight on Fox.
Brett basically accused Packers GM Ted Thompson of lying to him. And of blowing it by not resigning offensive guards Mike Wahle and Marco Rivera a couple years back (most Packer fans would likely agree with that assessment), and not even talking to Steve Mariucci as a possible head coach replacement (for the fired Mike Sherman) after Brett had been told by Thompson that he would do so. But the incident which really burned Brett's butt was not signing Randy Moss. "I worked my butt off two years ago," Brett said in reference to his efforts to get Moss signed to the Packers. Brett stated he even offered a part of his own salary to help cover Moss's salary, and that could be confirmed by Andrew Brandt, who at the time was the point man with the Packers in terms of negotiating contracts. According to Brett, the Packers could have had Moss for $3 million for one year; instead, he was offered less than $2 million. After Moss's signing with New England, Thompson was apparently asked at a press conference if Brett had worked hard to get Moss on the team. Brett says that Thompson said "not that I know of." "That's just bull," Brett stated.
Brett indicated it was hard for him to trust Thompson after these incidents where he feels he was told one thing and the public was told something else. Can't blame a guy for feeling that way if all is as he said it was.
So...the soap opera continues. And it's clear the rift between Brett and Thompson is a big one.
But if Brett really wants to put his now-nemesis Ted Thompson on the hot seat the best way for him to do that is not to rip him a new one in the media, but rather to send the required letter to the NFL Commissioner requesting reinstatement. The Packers can't do anything until Brett does that because as far as the league and team are concerned, Brett is still retired. If he wants to unretire, he needs to get reinstated first.
But, according to Brett's agent, Bus Cook, as reported in this ESPN.com story, "We have no definite plans to ask for reinstatement. Right now we have until the sixth week (of the regular season) and Brett has made it pretty clear that he is not willing to come in as a backup. If he asks for reinstatement and they start fining him $15,000 a day (for not reporting to training camp), well that just doesn't make sense. We're going to let Green Bay decide what they want to do. It's their move."
Possible Tampering by the ViQueens?
As if this whole situation isn't bad enough, this same ESPN.com story noted above also reports the following: "ESPN.com has confirmed that the Packers have filed tampering charges with the NFL against the Minnesota Vikings, alleging 'inappropriate dialogue' with offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, a close friend of Favre's and a former Packers assistant.
"The Vikings, according to a source, are expected to contend Bevell may have had conversations with Favre as a friend but had no involvement in discussing a job with the Vikings.
"Vikings coach Brad Childress has said in recent days the franchise is content with Tarvaris Jackson as their starting quarterback. What the Packers contend is that Favre and Bevell may have discussed Favre coming to the Vikings."
What a mess. What a way for everyone to lose.
Brett basically accused Packers GM Ted Thompson of lying to him. And of blowing it by not resigning offensive guards Mike Wahle and Marco Rivera a couple years back (most Packer fans would likely agree with that assessment), and not even talking to Steve Mariucci as a possible head coach replacement (for the fired Mike Sherman) after Brett had been told by Thompson that he would do so. But the incident which really burned Brett's butt was not signing Randy Moss. "I worked my butt off two years ago," Brett said in reference to his efforts to get Moss signed to the Packers. Brett stated he even offered a part of his own salary to help cover Moss's salary, and that could be confirmed by Andrew Brandt, who at the time was the point man with the Packers in terms of negotiating contracts. According to Brett, the Packers could have had Moss for $3 million for one year; instead, he was offered less than $2 million. After Moss's signing with New England, Thompson was apparently asked at a press conference if Brett had worked hard to get Moss on the team. Brett says that Thompson said "not that I know of." "That's just bull," Brett stated.
Brett indicated it was hard for him to trust Thompson after these incidents where he feels he was told one thing and the public was told something else. Can't blame a guy for feeling that way if all is as he said it was.
So...the soap opera continues. And it's clear the rift between Brett and Thompson is a big one.
But if Brett really wants to put his now-nemesis Ted Thompson on the hot seat the best way for him to do that is not to rip him a new one in the media, but rather to send the required letter to the NFL Commissioner requesting reinstatement. The Packers can't do anything until Brett does that because as far as the league and team are concerned, Brett is still retired. If he wants to unretire, he needs to get reinstated first.
But, according to Brett's agent, Bus Cook, as reported in this ESPN.com story, "We have no definite plans to ask for reinstatement. Right now we have until the sixth week (of the regular season) and Brett has made it pretty clear that he is not willing to come in as a backup. If he asks for reinstatement and they start fining him $15,000 a day (for not reporting to training camp), well that just doesn't make sense. We're going to let Green Bay decide what they want to do. It's their move."
Possible Tampering by the ViQueens?
As if this whole situation isn't bad enough, this same ESPN.com story noted above also reports the following: "ESPN.com has confirmed that the Packers have filed tampering charges with the NFL against the Minnesota Vikings, alleging 'inappropriate dialogue' with offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, a close friend of Favre's and a former Packers assistant.
"The Vikings, according to a source, are expected to contend Bevell may have had conversations with Favre as a friend but had no involvement in discussing a job with the Vikings.
"Vikings coach Brad Childress has said in recent days the franchise is content with Tarvaris Jackson as their starting quarterback. What the Packers contend is that Favre and Bevell may have discussed Favre coming to the Vikings."
What a mess. What a way for everyone to lose.
Tuesday, July 15, 2008
You know it's bad when...
The news media and blogosphere have of course been abuzz with comments on Brett Favre's comments (Part One) on Fox last night. Part Two airs this evening.
But you really know that things have taken a very strange turn when Brett's saga becomes a talking point on ABC's The View. The horror! The horror!
Oh...how do I know that? Don't ask... (shudder)
But you really know that things have taken a very strange turn when Brett's saga becomes a talking point on ABC's The View. The horror! The horror!
Oh...how do I know that? Don't ask... (shudder)
Monday, July 14, 2008
Favre speaks!
As noted in an earlier post, Brett spoke tonight on Fox's "On the Record with Greta Van Susteren."
You can view the video here.
Part Two will air Tuesday night. Same bat time. Same bat channel.
You can view the video here.
Part Two will air Tuesday night. Same bat time. Same bat channel.
Brett finally speaks tonight
At long last, Brett Favre has spoken out. The venue is Fox's "On the Record with Greta Van Susteren" which will air at 9 p.m. Central time tonight.
There are two quotes from Brett that have been released by Fox:
"I am guilty of retiring early and there is a reason for that. And the major issue is 'Why did he retire?' and 'He asked for a release because he doesn't want to play in Green Bay.' That's not true. And I hope people are hearing this and saying 'OK, that clears it up'."
"Them moving on does not bother me. It doesn't. I totally understand that. By me retiring March 3rd I knew that could possibly happen. All I was saying is you know I'm thinking about playing again. The 'itch' has been used. That is the word that has been used if you want to say itch, or the fire is coming back, or whatever. If I'm going to play it's going to be 100% commitment.... And so if you move on, you tell me one thing, don't come back and tell the public,... just say it. 'You know, we've moved on and we'll work with Brett on whatever it is.' Don't make up a lot of stuff or give half of the truth."
Hmmm...so, the question is what he's talking about when he says, "Don't make up a lot of stuff or give half of the truth." Hopefully, the interview will shed some more light on that statement.
Also, perhaps he'll finally say whether or not he has written the required letter to the NFL Commissioner officially requesting reinstatement. If not, then...what? Then, Brett, nothing is cleared up.
Please...please...are you in or are you out? Make up your mind.
You can read a brief tidbit about this on Van Susteren's page. Tune in.
There are two quotes from Brett that have been released by Fox:
"I am guilty of retiring early and there is a reason for that. And the major issue is 'Why did he retire?' and 'He asked for a release because he doesn't want to play in Green Bay.' That's not true. And I hope people are hearing this and saying 'OK, that clears it up'."
"Them moving on does not bother me. It doesn't. I totally understand that. By me retiring March 3rd I knew that could possibly happen. All I was saying is you know I'm thinking about playing again. The 'itch' has been used. That is the word that has been used if you want to say itch, or the fire is coming back, or whatever. If I'm going to play it's going to be 100% commitment.... And so if you move on, you tell me one thing, don't come back and tell the public,... just say it. 'You know, we've moved on and we'll work with Brett on whatever it is.' Don't make up a lot of stuff or give half of the truth."
Hmmm...so, the question is what he's talking about when he says, "Don't make up a lot of stuff or give half of the truth." Hopefully, the interview will shed some more light on that statement.
Also, perhaps he'll finally say whether or not he has written the required letter to the NFL Commissioner officially requesting reinstatement. If not, then...what? Then, Brett, nothing is cleared up.
Please...please...are you in or are you out? Make up your mind.
You can read a brief tidbit about this on Van Susteren's page. Tune in.
Will Winters be left in the cold by Brett?
One of the many intriguing subplots of this whole Favre-will-he-won't-he mess is this coming Saturday night's Packers Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony. Certainly, Brett will have his own induction one day, not only in the Packers Hall of Fame but the NFL's as well, of course. But this weekend's ceremony will see the induction of Al Treml, the Packers' video director from 1967 to 2001, Gilbert Brown, "The Gravedigger" ('nuff said), and Frank Winters, center extraordinaire for 11 years with the Pack. Bart Starr is presenting Treml, Santana Dotson is presenting Gilbert, and -- get ready for it! -- Brett Favre is presenting Frank Winters. Or at least was scheduled to present Frank Winters. As of the time of this blog post, there's no report one way or the other whether Brett will in fact show up to present his old center for induction.
It is a sad note to what should be a real moment in the sun for these inductees that the spotlight will likely not be on them as it should be this weekend, but will instead be on Brett and his drama. If Brett shows up, the story will be about him. If Brett doesn't show up, the story will be about him.
Treml, Gilbert and Winters deserve their honors and they deserve the focus to be on them. Let's hope that the Favre situation somehow moves to a resolution this week so that the new Packers Hall of Famers get their due.
For more on the Packers Hall of Fame Induction, click here.
Jolly Busted
Overlooked for the most part this last week was the news that defensive lineman Johnny Jolly was busted in Houston July 8 on felony charges of possessing at least 200 grams of codeine. According to the Houston Chronicle report, Jolly is scheduled to appear in court on July 22.
Jolly was lost for most of last season with a rotator cuff injury and was being counted on this season to take up some of the slack in the loss of Corey Williams to the Browns. Now? Maybe not. According to reports, he could be suspended by the NFL just for the arrest alone. Not good.
The Packers released this statement on the matter: "The Packers are aware of the report involving Johnny Jolly. This is a legal matter and we still are in the process of gathering information. We have no further comment at this time."
You can read the Houston Chronicle story here.
It is a sad note to what should be a real moment in the sun for these inductees that the spotlight will likely not be on them as it should be this weekend, but will instead be on Brett and his drama. If Brett shows up, the story will be about him. If Brett doesn't show up, the story will be about him.
Treml, Gilbert and Winters deserve their honors and they deserve the focus to be on them. Let's hope that the Favre situation somehow moves to a resolution this week so that the new Packers Hall of Famers get their due.
For more on the Packers Hall of Fame Induction, click here.
Jolly Busted
Overlooked for the most part this last week was the news that defensive lineman Johnny Jolly was busted in Houston July 8 on felony charges of possessing at least 200 grams of codeine. According to the Houston Chronicle report, Jolly is scheduled to appear in court on July 22.
Jolly was lost for most of last season with a rotator cuff injury and was being counted on this season to take up some of the slack in the loss of Corey Williams to the Browns. Now? Maybe not. According to reports, he could be suspended by the NFL just for the arrest alone. Not good.
The Packers released this statement on the matter: "The Packers are aware of the report involving Johnny Jolly. This is a legal matter and we still are in the process of gathering information. We have no further comment at this time."
You can read the Houston Chronicle story here.
Sunday, July 13, 2008
Nearly 200 show up for Favre rally
As noted in a post yesterday, a couple of Favre fans were calling for a rally today at Lambeau in support of Brett. According to an AP wire report on SI.com, about 200 people showed up. According to the article, the organizers "plan to hold another (rally) Monday night in the Milwaukee area and then every Sunday until the team reinstates Favre."
Of course, what these folks apparently don't realize -- or at least don't seem to care to acknowledge -- is that it is not the team's job to "reinstate" Brett. That's the NFL Commissioner's job. But only after he receives a letter from Brett saying that's what he wants...which, to this point in time, hasn't happened.
Maybe these guys should travel to Hattiesburg and hold a rally outside Brett's place and chant, "Write the letter!" "Write the letter!" Since that's what has to be done first...yeah, you're right...just much easier to ignore the facts...what the heck was I thinking?
You can read the entire article here.
Of course, what these folks apparently don't realize -- or at least don't seem to care to acknowledge -- is that it is not the team's job to "reinstate" Brett. That's the NFL Commissioner's job. But only after he receives a letter from Brett saying that's what he wants...which, to this point in time, hasn't happened.
Maybe these guys should travel to Hattiesburg and hold a rally outside Brett's place and chant, "Write the letter!" "Write the letter!" Since that's what has to be done first...yeah, you're right...just much easier to ignore the facts...what the heck was I thinking?
You can read the entire article here.
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